Dale's Glacier White 200 cup

[Micah]

For the money you spend on an Akra you could also get a Scorpion/Milltek system, race cat AND a much needed remap!
What put me off the Milltek was varying reports of welds cracking/deteriorating. However, it's a bit like our gearboxes - you only hear about the bad examples. I had a Milltek system on my Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo and it was very good indeed. The place that fitted it said that they'd never seen such a well made system.

 

[LOCKE]

I have titanium Akrapovic end cans and decat pipe on my bike. The welds are a work of art, fitment is perfect and it sounds amazing. I was lucky to get mine second hand as it would have been close to £1800 new! Most bike race teams use Akrapovic. Enough said.

 

[Dystant]

@Micah you make an excellent point, if I did go for Akra I'd definitely have to get a remap so we're talking close to £1300!

Miltek and remap is about 500 cheaper, so to me it's a no brainer! I think Akras are for those who have money trees in their garden

On top of this it's difficult for me because this month I have to replace exhaust manifold which is costing me £300 and my Cambelt service was due in December so this is gonna cost me about 500/600.

This car sure loves to eat money :excited:

 

[///M]

I think the akra has the benefit of being about 10KG lighter than any other exhaust so it's a huge weight saving, it's just stupidly expensive! Lol

Not started researching exhausts fully yet as we have other things on the way before hand. But if it is that much lighter than any of the others then I'd find it very hard not to get an Akra. Resale value is always going to be good too. Although it would have to be chopped down to suit the 197 diffuser.

Decisions, decisions... Thankfully, a little way off yet!

 

[Micah]

I've heard that the need for a remap isn't necessary with the Akra, though, exhausts apart, a remap should be on everyone's list regardless. Not saying there's anything wrong with the Akra at all, I'd love one!
I know what you mean about the money pit they can become, I'm tempted to get a new manifold, amongst getting the lower ball joints and belts done. Once everything is sorted you can sit back and enjoy the car and start to recuperate some savings!

@///M You could always source a 200 diffuser than having to weld tips onto the Akra

 

[john_walker74]

I didn't need a remap with my Akra. Very pleased with it, but it is expensive and almost unnecessary additional cost.

 

[Chris]

I've heard pretty much every exhaust in person and bar one which was a custom exhaust who I don't know who made it, the akra sounds the best!

 

[///M]

I've heard that the need for a remap isn't necessary with the Akra, though, exhausts apart, a remap should be on everyone's list regardless. Not saying there's anything wrong with the Akra at all, I'd love one!
I know what you mean about the money pit they can become, I'm tempted to get a new manifold, amongst getting the lower ball joints and belts done. Once everything is sorted you can sit back and enjoy the car and start to recuperate some savings!

@///M You could always source a 200 diffuser than having to weld tips onto the Akra

When it happens, it will be exhaust, intake and remap at the same time to get the most out of it anyway. I find it's always best to save and do things that work together all at the same time. More excitement from bigger changes. Seems to make you feel like you're getting more for your mods!

As for the diffuser, I actually much prefer the 197 diffuser both in design and with the hidden exhaust tips. Plus we have a carbon one so it would be a definite keeper. Whatever we do exhaust wise will need chopping to retain the OEM look making it seem even dafter to buy an Akra and immediately chop the tips off it! But I've done sillier things...

 

[Dystant]

Hmm even though a remap isn't necessary with an Akra, I'm going to get a remap anyway.

The way I'm thinking about it is Miltek and a remap will make the car more drivable and the power delivery smoother and perhaps give me some power gains.

Just an Akra alone will make the engine sound a bit better and probably not give any additional power without a remap.

I just can't justify spending £1300 on an Akra and a remap

 

[///M]

Bottom line mate, whatever you do will be an improvement over standard. I hear the Miltek is the best behaved when cruising too which is a bonus.

 

[LOCKE]

I would think the Akra would have the best research/testing. If I owned a 200 and needed an exhaust it would be a Akra for me as I know they are 100% quality. Are the Clio Akras titanium?

 

[Micah]

Bottom line mate, whatever you do will be an improvement over standard. I hear the Miltek is the best behaved when cruising too which is a bonus.

Now you tell me...

@LOCKE Yes, I believe they are, hence the amazing weight saving! There's an awesome video on YouTube with a Clio on a set of rollers. It's utter filth!

 

[Micah]

I think this is it - sorry if this is taking your thread off-topic, I think it's still within the boundaries though.

From 42 seconds is where it gets sexy:

 

[LOCKE]

Sold.

 

[john_walker74]

The Akra is not titanium and I would question the weight saving mentioned above.

 

[Dystant]

The Akra is not titanium and I would question the weight saving mentioned above.

Taken from product information on Ktecs website:

"The Evolution system offers greater gains because with it the Clio III RS 200 is a full 7 kg lighter than stock and gains 8 horsepower and 13 Nm of torque."

 

[Sean197]

8bhp from an exhaust?

 

[Dystant]

Need some input on this...

RenoTech specialists have quoted me £410 for the cambelt change (including everything apart from the De-phaser pulley), but they use OEM spec but NON-OEM parts (gates kit I think he said it's called).

Now my initial thought about this is to steer clear as they are non-oem parts, but on the phone he said they supply warranty with the cambelt which covers it's lifetime (6 years or 72k miles) which means they obviously trust that the parts are well made, so I started to consider it... what are people's thoughts on this? Has anybody had this done?

£410 compared to another quote I've had of £580 which uses genuine parts.

On top of this, I asked for a quote for them to change my exhaust manifold and fit a miltek exhaust, and he said the labour cost for this would be £210.

So were talking a total of £620 for a full cambelt service, a new exhaust manifold fitted and a new exhaust system fitted.

Anyway just looking for some thoughts on this! Cheers

 

[Sean197]

The garage who did my engine are £510 inc. dephaser and they use genuine parts. Gates belts are fine though.
I'd say overall that's a good price for everything to be done.

 

[Micah]

I agree, all that done at the same time with 2 of the biggest buggers of a job to do in one hit is priceless in my opinion. And you get the added bonus of some nice pops and burbles on the drive back!