Glacier White 200 Cup
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burrellbloke
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Plans for the New Year:
1. Repair the drivers side seat bolster tear with Steve Murr.
2. Get some coilovers - probably some Billy's to get a combination of a better ride for everyday use and a tighter ride for a few track days.
3. Do a track day at Anglesey.
4. Refresh the brakes with new discs and pads.
The Wife and I basically gifted each other for Christmas a week/weekend away when COVID allows - we are in Tier 4 so cannot go anywhere the moment. The week/weekend away will hopefully be near Anglesey so I can do a track day and she can spend a day having Spa treatments.
I bought a Ryobi 10" buffer with some Amazon vouchers over Christmas and when the weather permits I am going to coat the Clio in a few layers of some Auto Finesse Essence carnauba wax.
1. Repair the drivers side seat bolster tear with Steve Murr.
2. Get some coilovers - probably some Billy's to get a combination of a better ride for everyday use and a tighter ride for a few track days.
3. Do a track day at Anglesey.
4. Refresh the brakes with new discs and pads.
The Wife and I basically gifted each other for Christmas a week/weekend away when COVID allows - we are in Tier 4 so cannot go anywhere the moment. The week/weekend away will hopefully be near Anglesey so I can do a track day and she can spend a day having Spa treatments.
I bought a Ryobi 10" buffer with some Amazon vouchers over Christmas and when the weather permits I am going to coat the Clio in a few layers of some Auto Finesse Essence carnauba wax.
burrellbloke
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In between work commitments and the weather I have managed to apply 5 coats of Poorboys Wheel Sealant to the Megane.
I have got a day off tomorrow and the plan is to get the Clio up on axle stands and take off all of the wheels. I am going to give the arch liners a good scrub and clean with the pressure washer and a heavy duty cleaner. The Clio wheels will get a good scrub and I will apply some wheel sealant on both the inside and outside of the rims.
Today I dealt with a minor niggle. After replacing the car mats with yellow coloured Renault Sport mats to match the interior I found that the top edge of the new mat was catching on the edge of the clutch pedal. My solution arrived from Amazon today. It was only £3.00 with free next day delivery:
I purchased some heavy duty velcro. I stuck it to the back of the mat closest to the clutch pedal.
Now the clutch pedal clears the mat without catching.
I have got a day off tomorrow and the plan is to get the Clio up on axle stands and take off all of the wheels. I am going to give the arch liners a good scrub and clean with the pressure washer and a heavy duty cleaner. The Clio wheels will get a good scrub and I will apply some wheel sealant on both the inside and outside of the rims.
Today I dealt with a minor niggle. After replacing the car mats with yellow coloured Renault Sport mats to match the interior I found that the top edge of the new mat was catching on the edge of the clutch pedal. My solution arrived from Amazon today. It was only £3.00 with free next day delivery:
I purchased some heavy duty velcro. I stuck it to the back of the mat closest to the clutch pedal.
Now the clutch pedal clears the mat without catching.
burrellbloke
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I spent my day in the freezing weather today cleaning the wheel arches and applying wheel sealant to the Speedlines.
The temperature was -1 when I went outside today. I tried to fire up the pressure washer and struggled to plug in the hose - after I had got rid of the ice that had frozen in the end of the hose it started to work.
I checked the drivers side calliper when I had the wheel off. I had noticed some chips in the paintwork before.
I did a pretty awful job of touching up the paint and applying some clear lacquer to the calliper, but it will now be protected from the elements for a bit longer.
I then set about cleaning the arches with some Meguiars heavy duty cleaner and the pressure washer. I did think about getting out the tar remover and taking the liners off but I just could not face it with the cold weather.
The arches came up okay with a few applications of some heavy duty cleaner and using the pressure washer.
All of the wheels were scrubbed inside and out today. The brake dust build up on the inside of the rims was blasted off using the pressure washer, then scrubbed clean with a wheel brush. I gave each wheel three coats of Poorboys wheel sealant on the inside of the wheel and the outside.
It was dark and even colder by the time I finished today.
The wheels look better and hopefully will stay a bit cleaner for longer now they have been sealed again.
The temperature was -1 when I went outside today. I tried to fire up the pressure washer and struggled to plug in the hose - after I had got rid of the ice that had frozen in the end of the hose it started to work.
I checked the drivers side calliper when I had the wheel off. I had noticed some chips in the paintwork before.
I did a pretty awful job of touching up the paint and applying some clear lacquer to the calliper, but it will now be protected from the elements for a bit longer.
I then set about cleaning the arches with some Meguiars heavy duty cleaner and the pressure washer. I did think about getting out the tar remover and taking the liners off but I just could not face it with the cold weather.
The arches came up okay with a few applications of some heavy duty cleaner and using the pressure washer.
All of the wheels were scrubbed inside and out today. The brake dust build up on the inside of the rims was blasted off using the pressure washer, then scrubbed clean with a wheel brush. I gave each wheel three coats of Poorboys wheel sealant on the inside of the wheel and the outside.
It was dark and even colder by the time I finished today.
The wheels look better and hopefully will stay a bit cleaner for longer now they have been sealed again.
burrellbloke
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burrellbloke
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I treated the Clio to it's first clean of the new year yesterday. After applying two coats of Auto Finesse Essence wax it was looking pretty good.
It has been raining this morning - the wet weather has left some beading on the car to show that the wax is working.
It has been raining this morning - the wet weather has left some beading on the car to show that the wax is working.
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burrellbloke
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The Clio had developed a sticky rear brake caliper over the past two weeks. It was noticeable if the car had been parked overnight in the morning when the car moved off you could feel one of the rear brakes sticky very slightly. I decided to service the rear brakes today together with @EthanMenace. I went out and got some supplies to do the job this morning and came back home with a new trolley jack.
The new jack made it so much easier to get the car in to the air and on to axle stands at the rear. Before I was using a basic trolley jack that had a very small saddle. Once the car was in the air off came the rear wheels.
When I turned the disc by hand it had some resistance and on every turn at the same point it would become noticeably more difficult to spin. We unbolted the caliper and then secured the caliper by tying it to the rear shock to keep it out of the way. The bolts were difficult to loosen until they had a quick spritz of penetrating spray.
The pads were difficult to get out of the carrier. They needed a bit of gentle encouragement and after a bit of moderate prying they both came out. When the pads were out the disc span freely.
There was a score line around the centre of the disc - both nothing to really worry about. The pads seemed to be in good condition and it looked like the majority of the pad was making contact with the disc. There was no lip on the disc.
The carriers had a build up of general corrosion and dirt where the pads sit.
The shims also had the same build up of dirt.
The sliders were then taken out of their boots and given a clean.
I did not have any silicone grease and could not find any to pick up this morning. I used some Triple QX Red Rubber grease to relubricate the sliders and put them back on to to boots.
The carriers and shims were then cleaned using a wire brush to get as much corrosion and dirt off that we could.
Everything was then reassembled. The carriers were given a good coating of copper slip on the contact areas. The shims were put back on the carriers and given another coating of copper slip on the contact areas. The pads were given a clean using the wire brush on the contact areas and were then treated to some copper slip on the contact areas that touched both the carriers/shims and back of the pads.
The pads went back in far easier than they came out. We then bolted the caliper back on. The wheel was then turning without any obvious points where it was making contact.
We then serviced the other rear brake caliper. That side had no issues with the pads being difficult to remove.
After a quick test drive everything seemed to be okay. The brake pedal still felt the same and when the brakes were used they still felt just as powerful.
I will find out tomorrow if the brake service has solved the sticky caliper issue.
I have ordered a brake service kit and new pistons for the rear brakes from Kam Racing. I will have a go in better weather to replace the shims, pistons and seals.
The new jack made it so much easier to get the car in to the air and on to axle stands at the rear. Before I was using a basic trolley jack that had a very small saddle. Once the car was in the air off came the rear wheels.
When I turned the disc by hand it had some resistance and on every turn at the same point it would become noticeably more difficult to spin. We unbolted the caliper and then secured the caliper by tying it to the rear shock to keep it out of the way. The bolts were difficult to loosen until they had a quick spritz of penetrating spray.
The pads were difficult to get out of the carrier. They needed a bit of gentle encouragement and after a bit of moderate prying they both came out. When the pads were out the disc span freely.
There was a score line around the centre of the disc - both nothing to really worry about. The pads seemed to be in good condition and it looked like the majority of the pad was making contact with the disc. There was no lip on the disc.
The carriers had a build up of general corrosion and dirt where the pads sit.
The shims also had the same build up of dirt.
The sliders were then taken out of their boots and given a clean.
I did not have any silicone grease and could not find any to pick up this morning. I used some Triple QX Red Rubber grease to relubricate the sliders and put them back on to to boots.
The carriers and shims were then cleaned using a wire brush to get as much corrosion and dirt off that we could.
Everything was then reassembled. The carriers were given a good coating of copper slip on the contact areas. The shims were put back on the carriers and given another coating of copper slip on the contact areas. The pads were given a clean using the wire brush on the contact areas and were then treated to some copper slip on the contact areas that touched both the carriers/shims and back of the pads.
The pads went back in far easier than they came out. We then bolted the caliper back on. The wheel was then turning without any obvious points where it was making contact.
We then serviced the other rear brake caliper. That side had no issues with the pads being difficult to remove.
After a quick test drive everything seemed to be okay. The brake pedal still felt the same and when the brakes were used they still felt just as powerful.
I will find out tomorrow if the brake service has solved the sticky caliper issue.
I have ordered a brake service kit and new pistons for the rear brakes from Kam Racing. I will have a go in better weather to replace the shims, pistons and seals.
burrellbloke
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The Clio was also treated to a quick wash today. It is booked in for an MOT on Wednesday. I am hoping that it will pass without any problems. It has a stone chip in the windscreen which will come up as an advisory - that was an advisory on the MOT last year when it was owned by someone else.
I also decided to see if I could freshen up the inside of the car. It does not smell, but it is always nice to have a pleasant fragrance in the car.
The re-fresher works by leaving the cars internal fan on full blast for 15 minutes whilst the aerosol sprays itself out and then circulates round the car. It smells like a new car now - let's see how long that lasts for?
I also decided to see if I could freshen up the inside of the car. It does not smell, but it is always nice to have a pleasant fragrance in the car.
The re-fresher works by leaving the cars internal fan on full blast for 15 minutes whilst the aerosol sprays itself out and then circulates round the car. It smells like a new car now - let's see how long that lasts for?
R20BTG
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Really like what you're doing with the car, it looks fantastic. You mentioned earlier in the thread about some Bilstein coilovers on your shopping list. I just happen to have a set for sale, done approx 6k miles, with top mounts of the same age. Looks to me that you have the wider top mount opening which is the early style, so they'll fit your car. Drop me a PM if you're interested.
Cheers
Iain
Cheers
Iain
burrellbloke
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burrellbloke
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I dropped the car off on Wednesday this week for an MOT. I thought that everything looked in good condition and kept my fingers crossed that the car would pass or not require any expensive repairs. I took the car to a local garage which I have used for years, it is a not a Renault specialist, but they good quality work and if anything they are always cautious about repairs. As far as I am concerned I would rather a garage say to me, "That should be done", rather than, "Well... it might be okay until next year".
I got a call a few hours after dropping the car off to say that the Clio had passed everything on the MOT with the exception of a failed, and dangerous, drivers side ball joint. The MOT failure certificate reads "Suspension arm ball joint likely to become detached Offside Front".
This then caused a flurry of activity and head scratching. I ended up having a conversation with the garage which went along these lines:
Garage: Renault advice is that you get the hub/carrier/suspension arm that the ball joints come attached to in order avoid any fractures or damage when you replace the bail joints.
Me: What?
Garage: The hubs are made out of aluminium and you should consider replace the whole part rather than put in a new ball joint to an old hub. Renault don't sell the ball joints as operate parts now.
Me: I can get the ball joints separately and bring them to you.
Garage: It's down to you. I'm just explaining what Renault have told us.
Me: Okay. What is the cost to replace the one ball joint?
Garage: About £330 for the parts.
Me: What will it cost to replace all of the ball joints and hubs/carriers/arms?
Garage: A lot more - £550 in parts, plus labour, plus VAT.
Me: Sod it - are you going to use all new genuine Renault parts?
Garage: Yes
Me: Okay then.
So after a massive bill and a few hours of labour the Clio now has some shiny parts on the drivers side - but more importantly has a MOT for another year.
I am still not convinced that I actually needed the parts that have been replaced, other than the actual ball joints, but as the Clio turns 11 in March 2021 I considered it to be some expensive preventative maintenance.
As I co-own the Clio with @EthanMeance it means that we get the share the financial pain together.
Whilst I was experiencing the trauma of expensive drivers side suspension repairs @IainMac made me an offer that was too good to refuse. He offered me a set of Bilstein B14s that had covered 6,000 miles for a very reasonable price. Foolishly I agreed to the offer and the Billies are now packed up and ready to be delivered at some point next week.
Earlier this month I spoke with @Steve Murr about sorting out some bolster repairs to the drivers side Recaro in the Clio. I am dropping the car off to him tomorrow for the repairs to be done. Hopefully tomorrow will be the last time I see this.
I had set myself a budget to put aside some money each month to spend on the Clio with the expectation of not spending more than I put away for repairs or upgrades. The budget idea has failed miserably and now I really need to stop spending money on this car. The only problem with not spending money is that I have recently acquired some inlet manifolds from @DS197 and a throttle body from eBay. I was hoping to get the manifolds port matched and gas flowed, and then sprayed liquid yellow by MS Custom Engineering - that is a project that can wait for a few months.
I got a call a few hours after dropping the car off to say that the Clio had passed everything on the MOT with the exception of a failed, and dangerous, drivers side ball joint. The MOT failure certificate reads "Suspension arm ball joint likely to become detached Offside Front".
This then caused a flurry of activity and head scratching. I ended up having a conversation with the garage which went along these lines:
Garage: Renault advice is that you get the hub/carrier/suspension arm that the ball joints come attached to in order avoid any fractures or damage when you replace the bail joints.
Me: What?
Garage: The hubs are made out of aluminium and you should consider replace the whole part rather than put in a new ball joint to an old hub. Renault don't sell the ball joints as operate parts now.
Me: I can get the ball joints separately and bring them to you.
Garage: It's down to you. I'm just explaining what Renault have told us.
Me: Okay. What is the cost to replace the one ball joint?
Garage: About £330 for the parts.
Me: What will it cost to replace all of the ball joints and hubs/carriers/arms?
Garage: A lot more - £550 in parts, plus labour, plus VAT.
Me: Sod it - are you going to use all new genuine Renault parts?
Garage: Yes
Me: Okay then.
So after a massive bill and a few hours of labour the Clio now has some shiny parts on the drivers side - but more importantly has a MOT for another year.
I am still not convinced that I actually needed the parts that have been replaced, other than the actual ball joints, but as the Clio turns 11 in March 2021 I considered it to be some expensive preventative maintenance.
As I co-own the Clio with @EthanMeance it means that we get the share the financial pain together.
Whilst I was experiencing the trauma of expensive drivers side suspension repairs @IainMac made me an offer that was too good to refuse. He offered me a set of Bilstein B14s that had covered 6,000 miles for a very reasonable price. Foolishly I agreed to the offer and the Billies are now packed up and ready to be delivered at some point next week.
Earlier this month I spoke with @Steve Murr about sorting out some bolster repairs to the drivers side Recaro in the Clio. I am dropping the car off to him tomorrow for the repairs to be done. Hopefully tomorrow will be the last time I see this.
I had set myself a budget to put aside some money each month to spend on the Clio with the expectation of not spending more than I put away for repairs or upgrades. The budget idea has failed miserably and now I really need to stop spending money on this car. The only problem with not spending money is that I have recently acquired some inlet manifolds from @DS197 and a throttle body from eBay. I was hoping to get the manifolds port matched and gas flowed, and then sprayed liquid yellow by MS Custom Engineering - that is a project that can wait for a few months.
burrellbloke
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@Steve Murr is going to reupholster the upper and lower bolster sections of the seat closest to the drivers side. He will leave the yellow dot fabric in place but replace the worn grey fabric and foam.
burrellbloke
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The B14 coilovers arrived by courier today. Thanks to @IainMac for the great communication and updates - he has been a pleasure to do business with.
Either I or @EthanMenace will clean up the coilovers ready for them to be installed.
I have got a week booked off from work for mid to late February 2021 so I might wait to install the coilovers until then. That way I can do the job without rushing it.
Either I or @EthanMenace will clean up the coilovers ready for them to be installed.
I have got a week booked off from work for mid to late February 2021 so I might wait to install the coilovers until then. That way I can do the job without rushing it.
burrellbloke
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The Clio is back from having the drivers side Recaro bolster reupholstered by @Steve Murr
This is what it looked like before.
There was a tear on the lower bolster and the fabric on the upper bolster was wearing thin.
Now the fabric has been replaced together with some newer foam.
The newer fabric is a very slightly darker shade of grey as the original fabric has faded in the sun.
I really used to dislike seeing the bolster tear every time I got in to the car. Steve's work should now stop my car seat OCD.
The last part to sort out in the interior is the centre console trim round the heating dials. It is matt anthracite but has a soft touch finishing to it. Some of the soft touch finishing has worn away very slightly.
I have searched on eBay but it seems like good quality centre console trims are like rocking horse poo. I may have to bite the bullet and see if I can get it resprayed in either matt or gloss anthracite?
This is what it looked like before.
There was a tear on the lower bolster and the fabric on the upper bolster was wearing thin.
Now the fabric has been replaced together with some newer foam.
The newer fabric is a very slightly darker shade of grey as the original fabric has faded in the sun.
I really used to dislike seeing the bolster tear every time I got in to the car. Steve's work should now stop my car seat OCD.
The last part to sort out in the interior is the centre console trim round the heating dials. It is matt anthracite but has a soft touch finishing to it. Some of the soft touch finishing has worn away very slightly.
I have searched on eBay but it seems like good quality centre console trims are like rocking horse poo. I may have to bite the bullet and see if I can get it resprayed in either matt or gloss anthracite?
burrellbloke
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Today was a Sunday so that makes it a "Snow Foam Sunday". The Clio was given a good wash today.
I have been using Auto Finesse Satin finish on the tyres recently. I quite like the finish and it seems to last reasonably long.
Now I have posted that picture I can see some dirt on the inside of the rear arch.
I have put together a shopping list of bits to acquire before I put on the B14s in a few weeks time:
1. Super Pro drop links
2. New anti-roll bar links
3. New Renault rear damper bolts to attach the damper to the rear axle - 7703602253
4. New Renault bolts to attach the front dampers to the front hubs - 7703002824
5. New Renault nuts for the above bolts - 7703034274
6. 2x M9 x 1mm nyloc nuts for the rear B14s
7. 2x M12 x 1.25mm nyloc nuts for the front B14s
When the coilovers go on, together with the new drop links and anti-roll bar links, it will just leave the passenger side ball joints to do for a full suspension re-fresh at the front. I am tempted to buy some PowerFlex bushes for the rear dampers and rear axle - it a probably a job I could do whilst I put on the new dampers at the back of the car.
I have been using Auto Finesse Satin finish on the tyres recently. I quite like the finish and it seems to last reasonably long.
Now I have posted that picture I can see some dirt on the inside of the rear arch.
I have put together a shopping list of bits to acquire before I put on the B14s in a few weeks time:
1. Super Pro drop links
2. New anti-roll bar links
3. New Renault rear damper bolts to attach the damper to the rear axle - 7703602253
4. New Renault bolts to attach the front dampers to the front hubs - 7703002824
5. New Renault nuts for the above bolts - 7703034274
6. 2x M9 x 1mm nyloc nuts for the rear B14s
7. 2x M12 x 1.25mm nyloc nuts for the front B14s
When the coilovers go on, together with the new drop links and anti-roll bar links, it will just leave the passenger side ball joints to do for a full suspension re-fresh at the front. I am tempted to buy some PowerFlex bushes for the rear dampers and rear axle - it a probably a job I could do whilst I put on the new dampers at the back of the car.
burrellbloke
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I had a spare 20 minutes at lunchtime today whilst I was working from home. I had ordered some Autosol metal cleaner and some 0000 grade wire wool to see if I could clean up the front shocks a bit before they go on to the Clio.
It is hard work but most of the tarnished surface is now coming up clean. I need to acquire some spring compressors so that I can get the springs of the front shocks and clean the threads of the coilovers.
I have ordered a shopping list of parts now from Kam Racing. I managed to mess up the order but after a quick phone call they sorted out the right parts for me - so thanks to Kam Racing.
I had to order the nyloc nuts for the top of the front and rear dampers from Bilstein directly. I could not find them anywhere online due to their particular size at the rear. I have ended up paying £20 for 4 nyloc nuts and £8.50 postage!
Does anyone know if I can get new Bilstein decals to go on the front dampers? You can see in the photo on the left where the blue sticker was but there was not much of it left so it has been removed now.
It is hard work but most of the tarnished surface is now coming up clean. I need to acquire some spring compressors so that I can get the springs of the front shocks and clean the threads of the coilovers.
I have ordered a shopping list of parts now from Kam Racing. I managed to mess up the order but after a quick phone call they sorted out the right parts for me - so thanks to Kam Racing.
I had to order the nyloc nuts for the top of the front and rear dampers from Bilstein directly. I could not find them anywhere online due to their particular size at the rear. I have ended up paying £20 for 4 nyloc nuts and £8.50 postage!
Does anyone know if I can get new Bilstein decals to go on the front dampers? You can see in the photo on the left where the blue sticker was but there was not much of it left so it has been removed now.
suj
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You don't need spring compressors, just undo the collars under the spring and wind them down (this will take tension off the spring) then you can take off the nut from the top to remove too mount, then you wind the collars up or down to clean the threads.
burrellbloke
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The coilover project continues. I had planned on cleaning up the coilovers before putting them on the Clio. In the week I started to polish the front dampers and realised that to get off the top nyloc nut off I needed a go through ratchet set so that I could loosen off the top nut whilst a hex bit held the piston rod in place.
The go through ratchet set turned up today.
Now I have been able to get the springs off, and the top mount, I can finish cleaning the top of the front dampers tomorrow. The threads on the main body of the coilovers need a good clean to make sure the height adjustment mechanism stays in good condition. There is a small amount of surface rust at the very top of the piston rod end of the damper on this damper. I will clean it up and coat it in grease to stay rust free in the future.
If the weather is not too bad next weekend the coilovers will go on.
The go through ratchet set turned up today.
Now I have been able to get the springs off, and the top mount, I can finish cleaning the top of the front dampers tomorrow. The threads on the main body of the coilovers need a good clean to make sure the height adjustment mechanism stays in good condition. There is a small amount of surface rust at the very top of the piston rod end of the damper on this damper. I will clean it up and coat it in grease to stay rust free in the future.
If the weather is not too bad next weekend the coilovers will go on.
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