Ok... The 200T vs 200 comparison!!!!

[Mentalpen]

Arrrr ok

 

[djjackwilson]

1st UK registered RS 200 EDC.*

LY - LUX - Cup

*1st non Renault Owned Registered RS200

 

[Fernandez]

1st UK registered RS 200 EDC.*

LY - LUX - Cup

*1st non Renault Owned Registered RS200

They've done well, I didn't think they would even sell one. :rofl:

 

[Arran]

Going for a drive in one soon! Excited!

 

[JamesS]

Interesting review from Steve Sutcliffe in Autocar where he says "But at its centre, the Clio Renaultsport 200 Turbo has become a very different car compared with its predecessors, one whose dual-clutch automatic gearbox in particular is neither fast enough nor intuitive enough in use to justify its presence here. To be blunt, it feels much like a regular automatic car with paddles, with downshifts occurring too slowly – even when Race mode is selected."

I'm sure the media cars will have had all the latest updates, so an interesting opinion!

 

[Arran]

Well I've been out in it. Fantastic bit of kit. It's nothing like the 200 though. The gearbox was, although on some changes it was quick and smooth, others weren't so. It handled beautifully, wasn't too firm and coped with bumps well. The brakes are brilliant! Personally think they're better than the Brembos. The car was very easy to drive and in fully auto it was very comfortable.

The downsides though, I hate the digital speedo, it's too slow to react. The interior doesn't look like it's £22k worth of car. The button for example on the gear selector feels very cheap. The window switches feel horrible and sound even worse. There's so many different colours and textures going on it's messy. Gloss black, orange, red, matte black, etc. Overall I felt a little detached from the driving experience I used to get in the 197. It's far better in general conditions, but if you're looking for a driver's car it's not as good. Average mpg was only an eye watering 13.5 too! Even though this demo does get driven hard most of the time.

 

[luke3]

Well I've been out in it. Fantastic bit of kit. It's nothing like the 200 though. The gearbox was, although on some changes it was quick and smooth, others weren't so. It handled beautifully, wasn't too firm and coped with bumps well. The brakes are brilliant! Personally think they're better than the Brembos. The car was very easy to drive and in fully auto it was very comfortable.

The downsides though, I hate the digital speedo, it's too slow to react. The interior doesn't look like it's £22k worth of car. The button for example on the gear selector feels very cheap. The window switches feel horrible and sound even worse. There's so many different colours and textures going on it's messy. Gloss black, orange, red, matte black, etc. Overall I felt a little detached from the driving experience I used to get in the 197. It's far better in general conditions, but if you're looking for a driver's car it's not as good. Average mpg was only an eye watering 13.5 too! Even though this demo does get driven hard most of the time.

Good honest review Arran!!
That's what I'm hearing a lot, good for the shops not so good for driver involvement! Expensive car for the shops.

 

[N0ddie]

GT86 for me next.

Hopefully they are bringing out the much rumoured blown version.

 

[The Wizard]

GT86 for me next.

Hopefully they are bringing out the much rumoured blown version.

Have you thought about the Cayman, N0ddie? A friend has a bright orange Cayman S Sport (pretty rare tbh) which is used on track, lovely bit of kit with the soundtrack to boot.

 

[N0ddie]

Have you thought about the Cayman, N0ddie? A friend has a bright orange Cayman S Sport (pretty rare tbh) which is used on track, lovely bit of kit with the soundtrack to boot.

Never been a fan of their looks tbh. Also not the best car for putting kids in the back.

GT86 has rear isofix seats and room for baby seats which mean the wee man and any future little brothers or sisters can also get in the 86.

 

[Yiannis197]

GT86 for me next.

Good decision. The new clio just doesn't cut it...

 

[FaithlessEmo]

GT86 for me next.

Hopefully they are bringing out the much rumoured blown version.

That's what I was considering too. But maybe a Subaru BRZ instead as there isn't as many of them. lol

 

[Foxspeed]

GT86 for me next.

Hopefully they are bringing out the much rumoured blown version.

seen a few round my way and must say they do stand out on the road and look really good 8)

 

[Tickle]

Got to agree with the gt86, looks the best bottom of the ladder drivers car on the market now. A neighbour has a red one and it certainly looks the part and different...... Plus its n/a and manual !

 

[N0ddie]

That's what I was considering too. But maybe a Subaru BRZ instead as there isn't as many of them. lol

I do like the BRZ slightly more, particularly in the Scoob Blue.

 

[djjackwilson]

Well I've been out in it. Fantastic bit of kit. It's nothing like the 200 though. The gearbox was, although on some changes it was quick and smooth, others weren't so. It handled beautifully, wasn't too firm and coped with bumps well. The brakes are brilliant! Personally think they're better than the Brembos. The car was very easy to drive and in fully auto it was very comfortable.

The downsides though, I hate the digital speedo, it's too slow to react. The interior doesn't look like it's £22k worth of car. The button for example on the gear selector feels very cheap. The window switches feel horrible and sound even worse. There's so many different colours and textures going on it's messy. Gloss black, orange, red, matte black, etc. Overall I felt a little detached from the driving experience I used to get in the 197. It's far better in general conditions, but if you're looking for a driver's car it's not as good. Average mpg was only an eye watering 13.5 too! Even though this demo does get driven hard most of the time.

Those brakes are amazing - speaking to an RS rep he said in every test they out performed the previous brembos.

Also the MPG - that'll be on all mileage. The 1.5 DCi's come off the transporter with like an average of 6 MPG. A lot of say doing nothing.

On the road they were pretty good - I was getting 29-32 when I was giving it some and casual driving through villages - standard driving then.

The 44 mark will only be hit on a long run. I got 37.8 MPG in my 200 on the Motorway drive down - super ECO! As for the way back - 27... Yeah haha

But they are good fun - still undecided about whether I would trade mine in for one.

How did you find all that torque? Can't half feel the difference?

 

[Robo_#1]

I do like the BRZ slightly more, particularly in the Scoob Blue.

The only issue with the scoob is the 3yr warranty. Toyota offers 5yrs on the GT86 which sucks really since mechanically they're exactly the same (except spring rates). But the scoob looks better and that blue... Oh my. The GT86 most of the colours are naff, the blue, black and grey are all REALLY boring. Orange or white FTW . They do cost a good bit more than the Clio though.

 

[Arran]

Those brakes are amazing - speaking to an RS rep he said in every test they out performed the previous brembos.

Also the MPG - that'll be on all mileage. The 1.5 DCi's come off the transporter with like an average of 6 MPG. A lot of say doing nothing.

On the road they were pretty good - I was getting 29-32 when I was giving it some and casual driving through villages - standard driving then.

The 44 mark will only be hit on a long run. I got 37.8 MPG in my 200 on the Motorway drive down - super ECO! As for the way back - 27... Yeah haha

But they are good fun - still undecided about whether I would trade mine in for one.

How did you find all that torque? Can't half feel the difference?

I was very impressed with the brakes. Not only strong but had great feel and progression on the pedal too. I was expecting them to be worse, but honestly aren't. Ye, I guess the MPG would be far better than the 197/200 in 'normal' conditions. The torque is improved, it gives you more of a shove in the back under acceleration and I like the engine noise under load.

After driving to the dealer in my 265 bhp 300 lbft torque Mazda 3 MPS it felt slow and lacking in torque (as you would expect)!!!!!!! I should have driven our 307 HDi to the dealer instead!

 

[The Wizard]

Never been a fan of their looks tbh. Also not the best car for putting kids in the back.

GT86 has rear isofix seats and room for baby seats which mean the wee man and any future little brothers or sisters can also get in the 86.

Fair point.

 

[Arran]

The only issue with the scoob is the 3yr warranty. Toyota offers 5yrs on the GT86 which sucks really since mechanically they're exactly the same (except spring rates). But the scoob looks better and that blue... Oh my. The GT86 most of the colours are naff, the blue, black and grey are all REALLY boring. Orange or white FTW . They do cost a good bit more than the Clio though.

Subaru now offer a 5 year warranty on all their cars excluding the WRX STI.

http://subaru.co.uk/why-subaru/

http://subaru.co.uk/vehicles/brz/se/

I sat in a BRZ a few weeks ago at the Subaru/Ssangyong dealer which is also Mazda service. I wasn't impressed by the interior, poor design, badly made and not very good quality materials.