The Definitive What Suspension Do You Have Thread...

Discussion in 'Suspension, Brakes & Steering' started by Willis, Dec 8, 2012.

What's Your Setup?

  1. Cup

    129 vote(s)
    37.6%
  2. Non-Cup

    67 vote(s)
    19.5%
  3. P.I Springs - £115

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  4. KW Springs - £155

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Apex Springs - £100

    2 vote(s)
    0.6%
  6. Spax Springs - £165

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. H&R Coilovers - £950

    8 vote(s)
    2.3%
  8. Avo Coliovers - £

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Eibach Springs - £195

    21 vote(s)
    6.1%
  10. Ohlins Coilovers - £

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  11. KW V1 Coilovers - £750

    12 vote(s)
    3.5%
  12. KW V2 Coilovers - £

    2 vote(s)
    0.6%
  13. KW V3 Coilovers - £1350

    7 vote(s)
    2.0%
  14. Bilstein Coilovers - £750

    11 vote(s)
    3.2%
  15. H&R -30mm/-30mm - £185

    10 vote(s)
    2.9%
  16. H&R -30mm/-40mm - £185

    33 vote(s)
    9.6%
  17. H&R -40mm/-40mm - £185

    8 vote(s)
    2.3%
  18. Spax RSX Coilovers - £750

    8 vote(s)
    2.3%
  19. KW Clubsports Coilovers - £1750

    8 vote(s)
    2.3%
  20. AST Sportline II Coilovers - £1500

    7 vote(s)
    2.0%
  21. The one thats gonna beat Will now as my car works!

    3 vote(s)
    0.9%
  22. GAZ Gold

    5 vote(s)
    1.5%
  1. Chris

    Chris Bad cop Administrator

    Messages:
    10,548
    Location:
    Needham Market
    Car:
    LY 200t
    Ozrenaultsport site will be your best bet for advice on aussie sellers/distributors.

    Over here Cazanracing do a good selection of coilovers.
     

  2. Flacsi

    Flacsi Paid Member

    Messages:
    423
    Location:
    Budapest, Hungary
    Car:
    Red Clio RS 197
    Guys I think we are at the same shoes or on the same path: building our cars for time-attacks/track-days.

    level1:
    Bilstein B14 is a ride height adjustable coilover used in Toyota GT86 TRD also, pretty similar to KW V1, it cost around €1k

    level2:
    parallel setting of the rebound and compression phases, like Bilstein B16 and KW V3, AST 5100 cost around €1.8k


    level 3: KW Bilstein clubsport, Ohlins R&T from €2.4k

    So do we need a coilover, which only lowers our car OR if we invest, would it be better to invest more so we can change the rebound and compressions also?
    Or its all about money, again?

    links:
    http://www.bilstein.de/en/products/s.../bilstein-b14/
    http://www.ast-suspension.com/websh...t-1-way-5100-renault-3-clio-rs-197-200-detail
     
  3. rosscoe

    rosscoe Platinum Member

    Messages:
    188
    Location:
    newburgh fife
    Car:
    clio 197/ BMW e46 M3/ Disco td5 Remapped..
    Well I finally took the plunge today and ordered a set of AST 5100 with their top mounts.

    Got them for a fantastic price from Julian at Balance motorsport, Top lad who knows his stuff when it comes to suspension.

    Now just got the long wait to get over now..
     
  4. PAUL JA

    PAUL JA Paid Member

    Messages:
    506
    Car:
    Company shed
    very nice :thumbup:
     
  5. F1team

    F1team Gold Member

    Messages:
    6
    Car:
    197 Cup
    Nobody Using these then? How come they can't fit the cup? I'd be interested in seeing pics as a set ride height and adjustable damping would suit for me.
     
  6. Tommo53

    Tommo53

    Messages:
    2
    Car:
    Aus Spec 200 Cup Trophee
    Steve11 member on here has the koni kit. Looks like a very nice setup.
     
  7. R27SG

    R27SG

    Messages:
    191
    Car:
    R27
    Hi guys, i am looking for some opinions.

    driving a R27 with Eibach + Cup Dampers.

    Enjoys Fast Road with occasional track day like once or twice a year.

    Looking at a few candidate.

    1. Bilstein B14
    2. AST 5100
    3. KW V3

    I am shortlisting B14 for the price and reputation. However I have concern over the soft spring rate. I am afraid it may handle the same as my current setup.

    I do not mind topping up for AST 5100 or KW V3 if B14 is not a worthy upgrade from my current setup.

    Any expert willing to comment?
     
  8. hetu

    hetu

    Messages:
    39
    Car:
    197
    Hi! I have some questions, I sent several emails to ASTsuspension and I had no answer. What can I do? I'm from Spain, here there is no dealer of AST. If any of you can help me...

    -What is the function of the double digressive piston? Is it worth the price?
    -If I decide to buy AST where is the best site to make the order? At least a site where I get feedback...
     
  9. coendek

    coendek

    Messages:
    66
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Car:
    Clio RS200
    Hi hetu,

    Drop me an email and I´ll help you out.

    [email protected]

    the DDP is worth the money indeed!

    and please note that AST 5100 has also coilover in the rear.... not spring/pre-load adjuster combi.
     
  10. Chris_200CUP

    Chris_200CUP Paid Member

    Messages:
    1,195
    Location:
    Stoke
    Car:
    200 RS
    Anyone know the spring rates for the Gaz golds?
     
  11. Yiannis197

    Yiannis197 Paid Member

    Messages:
    3,683
    Location:
    London
    Car:
    Clio R27
    Yes absolutely. Well worth the premium. Basically the double digressive piston or DDP increases the low speed damping. Low speed damping is what you need really as it keeps the car flat on high speed corners, also it allows the piston to be softer on high speed damping and that is when you hit a pothole or bump.
     
  12. aaronevans93

    aaronevans93

    Messages:
    165
    Location:
    Essex
    Car:
    GW FF 200
    I'm having h&r springs fitted wednesday, I have cup suspension at the moment, my main reason was just because I wanted the car lower but looks like I'll be making a mistake when it comes to track days by reading these comments?
     
  13. Chris_200CUP

    Chris_200CUP Paid Member

    Messages:
    1,195
    Location:
    Stoke
    Car:
    200 RS

    I run the b14 and for track days it's a good set up. There's a lot less body roll than on standard cup set up.
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2016
  14. peter

    peter POTM Winner - February 2017 Gold Member

    Messages:
    1,248
    Location:
    b e l g i u m
    Car:
    RB7 #166
    is steve11 the only one on here running the adjustable koni sport kit (with progressive H&R springs)? i see it's not even mentioned in the poll.
     
  15. Chris_200CUP

    Chris_200CUP Paid Member

    Messages:
    1,195
    Location:
    Stoke
    Car:
    200 RS
    Who's running clubsport's?
     
  16. Digger90

    Digger90 Paid Member

    Messages:
    55
    OK, front spring broken, on 197 Cup so good excuse for an upgrade! :thumb:

    Have read the entire thread and there seem to be lots of questions, but not too many answers from real-world owner experiences.

    For 197 Cup what are people's thoughts on Bilstein B14's for road AND track use?

    Or should I just spend a lot more and buy AST 5100's or KW Clubsports?

    The car is used both as a daily driver as well as track toy (6-8 TD's per year).
     
  17. BenAG200

    BenAG200

    Messages:
    713
    Location:
    Berkshire
    I'll tag you in another thread that has a lot of useful info.
     
  18. ///M

    ///M Gold Member

    Messages:
    4,931
    Car:
    R27, ///M CS, Exige V6
    Going to need another one added to this list soon!

    :poke:
     
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  19. Digger90

    Digger90 Paid Member

    Messages:
    55
    Cheers BenAG200 - thats a useful thread too! :thumb:
     
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  20. FISHBOY

    FISHBOY

    Messages:
    203
    Location:
    Kent
    Car:
    197 CUP
    Could you tag me in it too pls - my 197 cup just failed its MOT due to a broken spring
     

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