@EthanMenace picked up the front shocks from Gaz in Basildon yesterday.

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The shocks are now back on the car.

I was told by a Gaz technician over the phone that both shocks had bent rods. This would make sense as the rebound on one shock was pretty poor - when you pushed it down it took far longer than the other side to reset. The invoice from Gaz is a bit odd as I was quoted £60 per front shock to be serviced. The invoice suggests that the service was in fact £90 per shock and that I have not paid for replacement rods?

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The top mounts do not seem to have been fiddled with so the geo settings should still be about right and okay to drive around with until the alignment is done again.

The car will come off the axle stands tonight that it has been sat on over the past few weeks.

We had a look at the track wheels on Sunday and decided that although the existing MRF tyres are pretty worn we will just change two tyres for the front and run the rears until they are more or less bald. One of the tyres to be changed has got cracks on the inside sidewall. Helpfully we have a stack of 8 part worn MRF tyres we purchased earlier in the year to use. I also gave the wheels a quick clean on Sunday.

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The jobs left on the Oulton Park track day prep list are now:
  1. Swap over two knackered tyres for newer MRF tyres; and
  2. Sort out the alignment at AW Motorworks on Saturday.
We are starting to see the benefit of have a decent supply of spares for the Clio now. The rear beam was really easy to sort out as we had a spare beam from the crashed car - this was front end damage and no rear end damage. We have a spare set of hubs, front arms and front calipers. I am expecting next year to be an expensive year as we want to put a Cup Racer front end before the weather gets warmer and it is sensible weather for track days. But we keep talking about aqua blasting the hubs, putting spherical bearings in the arms etc., etc in addition to all the parts we need of the Cup Racer front end.

In other developments Ethan bought some Megane 3 calipers to refurbish and put on his Megane 250 - so we might have a spare set of Megane Calipers to fit to the Clio at some point next year?
 
Bent rods and split tyre walls, just call me GAV THE KERB SMASHER
If you swap out my name and put in Ethan's then your sentence will read perfectly.

I have seen a few videos of track walks recently and some of the kerbs at Snetterton and Croft have big differences between the kerb stones, and the areas behind the kerb if you exceed track limits.
 
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@EthanMenace picked up the front shocks from Gaz in Basildon yesterday.

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The shocks are now back on the car.

I was told by a Gaz technician over the phone that both shocks had bent rods. This would make sense as the rebound on one shock was pretty poor - when you pushed it down it took far longer than the other side to reset. The invoice from Gaz is a bit odd as I was quoted £60 per front shock to be serviced. The invoice suggests that the service was in fact £90 per shock and that I have not paid for replacement rods?

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The top mounts do not seem to have been fiddled with so the geo settings should still be about right and okay to drive around with until the alignment is done again.

The car will come off the axle stands tonight that it has been sat on over the past few weeks.

We had a look at the track wheels on Sunday and decided that although the existing MRF tyres are pretty worn we will just change two tyres for the front and run the rears until they are more or less bald. One of the tyres to be changed has got cracks on the inside sidewall. Helpfully we have a stack of 8 part worn MRF tyres we purchased earlier in the year to use. I also gave the wheels a quick clean on Sunday.

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The jobs left on the Oulton Park track day prep list are now:
  1. Swap over two knackered tyres for newer MRF tyres; and
  2. Sort out the alignment at AW Motorworks on Saturday.
We are starting to see the benefit of have a decent supply of spares for the Clio now. The rear beam was really easy to sort out as we had a spare beam from the crashed car - this was front end damage and no rear end damage. We have a spare set of hubs, front arms and front calipers. I am expecting next year to be an expensive year as we want to put a Cup Racer front end before the weather gets warmer and it is sensible weather for track days. But we keep talking about aqua blasting the hubs, putting spherical bearings in the arms etc., etc in addition to all the parts we need of the Cup Racer front end.

In other developments Ethan bought some Megane 3 calipers to refurbish and put on his Megane 250 - so we might have a spare set of Megane Calipers to fit to the Clio at some point next year?
Saturday the 16th?
Might bump into you
 
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After installing the rear beam last week we had encountered two problems. The first was a knocking noise and the second was a rotational rubbing noise. The knocking noise was quickly diagnosed as the exhaust banging on the rear beam. That was sorted out by Ethan on Friday by adjusting the exhaust clamps. He also serviced the rear brake calipers, which are about a year old, by greasing the slider pins but the rotational noise was not cured.

Today the @EthanMenace took the Clio to AW Motorworks for the rear alignment to be sorted after we had installed the new rear beam, and to check on the front alignment. We had not shimmed the new rear beam at all.

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After Alex manoeuvred the car on to the ramp he suggested that the rotational noise was just the rear pads rubbing when reversed due to uneven wear and that they would likely settle in the future. He noticed when moving the car that the centre display and radio were not working - this is part of the electrical fault that we have been plagued with since we got the new shell in November 2022. The electrical problem had meant that we did not have any internal car luxuries like internal lights, radio, centre display, auto lights, auto wipers, RS monitor, no cruise control although the speed limiter worked, no electric windows (which we had found a solution for) and the boot would not release (we had removed the boot lock earlier in the year). We had spent a very long time checking the fuses and swapping relays trying to locate the problem. Months ago we have tried to clean up the multi plug in the passenger foot well and even de-pinned and re-pinned electrical contacts in the multi plug. Nothing we had done had solved the problem and we had resigned ourselves to pulling out the entire loom and replacing it with the loom from the old shell over the winter.

Today the electrical problems were solved! This photo made me so happy when I was sent it.

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A fuse that was hidden behind some trim was the culprit. Alex had encountered the problem before and knew where to fine the fuse which cured the problem. The electrical fault and orange spanner on the dashboard have finally disappeared. The car now has luxuries such as a RS Monitor, a radio, and cruise control. The radio and cruise control will be nice to use on the way to, and back from, track days

The alignment was checked before any adjustments were made.

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The front had interesting toe readings and the rear measurements were for a rear beam with no shims. The rear beam was shimmed with some PMS shims and a custom made 5 minute toe shoe made out of an aluminium can of Monster.

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These are the final alignment settings:

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Just over 3 degrees of negative camber on the front, 2 degrees of negative camber at the back, and some more toe on the rear to make the rear more lively. They are not extreme alignment settings but slightly more aggressive than we have run before.

The car was weighed today - it is a bit of a porker. This is the weight with a full tank of fuel and no driver. The tank probably had about 50 litres of fuel so I would guess that is about 50 kilos of weight. If we ever get round to removing some of the internal luxuries like carpet and door cards we could reduce the weight by attacking things like the sound deadening.

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Now the alignment has been done we are pretty much ready for Oulton Park on Tuesday.
 
Interesting to see a lot of weight still to be lost. Mine was 1180kg with just under half a tank, no carpets, minimal trim too. Call it 1200kg(ish) with a full tank. Mind you, weight isn't much of a concern considering you always go out together in the car!
 
Interesting to see a lot of weight still to be lost. Mine was 1180kg with just under half a tank, no carpets, minimal trim too. Call it 1200kg(ish) with a full tank. Mind you, weight isn't much of a concern considering you always go out together in the car!
It is noticeable if just one of us goes out for some laps. We are always quicker alone, maybe up to 3 seconds at somewhere like Snetterton.

We haven't removed much weight from the car so far. The rear seats, ISOfix bar, the front seats have been replaced, and the original battery was swapped for an Odyssey PC680. It is still very comfortable inside the car.
 
I’d take some of the comforts over the marginal benefits of shedding 40kg! Sorry our chat wasn’t longer Ethan. Can only imagine the abuse Alex was aiming at my choice of new car:grinning:
haha he said nothing was hanging off and there were no holes in it so that was as far as he wanted to go
 
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We went to Oulton Park on for a Javelin track day on Tuesday 19th September 2023.

Oulton Park is a 3 hour and 30 minute journey from home so we set off on Monday afternoon and stayed overnight at a nearby Premier Inn. The car was a pleasure to drive with the internal electrics working. The radio and cruise control were very nice to have for the journey. The internal light was also very useful in the fading light. We met up with @Helpimonfire for some dinner on Monday night.

I had been checking the weather the week before the track day as the forecast looked like it was going to be very wet. Apart from a damp track day at Brands Hatch earlier this year every other track day I had done had been mostly dry. On Tuesday morning we got up and it was raining, the ground was wet, and the forecast was more rain with a heavy downpour due to arrive at lunchtime.

We got to the track and left the Speedlines on PS4 tyres rather than putting on the Ultraleggeras with semi slick MRF ZTEs. It was good to meet up with some familiar faces including @Helpimonfire, @jimmybell, @PITA, @RSRowe and the Baguettes. We did the sighting laps and thought that we would keep the road tyres on for a few sessions in the hope that the track would dry out, but a lot of people ran semi slicks so we changed to the MRF's for the first session. At the time of the sighting laps the rain had stopped.

The organisers said that there were 80 cars booked on to the track day. There were a good amount of Clio 197s and 200s there, a few 182s, quite a few Porsche variants, a single BMW e46 M3, lots of Caterfields, and a smattering of other cars. For some bizarre reason even though we had a garage we were unable to go out on track via the pit lane - we had to go via the assembly area. This might be a quirk for Oulton Park?

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@EthanMenace did the first session. Neither of us had been to Oulton Park before and the track looked immense from the passenger seat with it's changes in elevation and the banked corner at Shell Oils Corner. The track also looked very technical in that you could not just put your foot down and point the Clio in the right direction like you do at somewhere like Snetterton. The track was technical with multiple apexes on some parts of the circuit. The track was made more difficult due to the rain and the greasy surface. Ethan did a respectable 2m 31s in his first session.

I went out for my first session and quite literally tip toed road the circuit. I had not driven the circuit before and had only done a few laps of Oulton Park on Project Cars 3 on my Xbox. I was being super cautious due to the damp conditions. I did a few laps and spent most of my time looking in the rear view mirror and letting faster drivers come past. My first session was cut short due to a red flag. My best lap time from the first session was a painfully slow 2m 42s.

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As the morning went on the rain came back when it started spitting but the track stayed moist but did not have standing water on it. There were many greasy spots on the track particularly at Knickerbrook which resulted in a routine slide on at least each session.

Ethan did the third session and improved on his times. The track looking was getting drier with constant use. I did a second session just before 12 noon. At this stage the weather was getting worse. Although I improved on my very slow times I found it difficult to have more confidence as the rain was falling. Although I was getting faster I kept lifting off the throttle after exiting a corner and before the braking zone of the next corner as my brain kept telling me I could not get round the track faster than I was already going.

A red flag caused an early lunch. At this stage I wanted the track to dry out and Ethan was looking forward to some wet sessions. The predicted downpour came at lunchtime leaving a wet track with areas of standing water for the afternoon. This is the weather as we drove over to the restaurant to get some lunch and avoid the rain.

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After getting some food and returning the the garages I met @Tarticmonkey - it is always good to put a face to a username.

We thought about changing the wheels back to the PS4s after lunch but just decided to stick with the MRFs. We both did more sessions in the afternoon. The MRFs coped perfectly well wit the moist conditions. I was making small improvements and Ethan was making big improvements.

Halfway through the afternoon we ran low on fuel. As Oulton Park is not a "power' circuit we were using less fuel than usual. Helpfully @RSRowe sold me some fuel that he was not using as he had run out of brake pads and had already put his Megane back on his trailer. This saved me from driving off to a petrol station or waiting 40 minutes for the on site fuel station to re-open.

As usual my best session was my last session of the day. I went out about 4.15pm and did 5 or 6 laps when there was a dry line appearing on the track and dry areas in most of the corner exits. A drier track was a game changer for me. The car had grip and that gave me confidence to push harder. The exit from Shell Oils Corner was excellent in the dry as you could power out of it rather than feather the throttle to get to a point where the wheels would grip but enough without spinning. Although my best lap time for the day was still a very slow 2m 26s I had improved. Having put together some consistent laps I decided to let Ethan have some flying laps to see what the car was capable of with its new stiffened rear beam and additional front camber.

This is Ethan's best lap of the day, a 2m 09s lap:


I think that we managed to record every session on the GoPros so will look to see if there is any decent footage. I have noticed that the spot meter on the front GoPro wasn't set correctly so some of the front footage is a bit washed out. The rear footage is likely to be useless as a lot of it looks like this:

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When I was able to push the car in the drier conditions the rear of the car just seemed to follow the front. When it skipped over a kerb at chicane it felt predictable in the way it moved. I think that the stiffer rear beam has made the car better but I need more seat time to give some real feedback. On the journey home Ethan certainly felt that the rear beam was a big improvement. The additional front camber made the car turn it sharper.

When I went to Cadwell Park earlier in the year I left there feeling like I had unfinished business there. I had the same feeling when I left Oulton Park. I know that with more laps I would have produced some better laps, and, ultimately driven faster with more confidence. I have said it may times in this thread that the car is more capable than I give it credit for. Oulton Park is definitely a circuit I would go back to.

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I don't think that we will do another track day this year. We have nothing booked. The Clio fund is empty at the moment so we need to save for our future plans. The car needs an oil change and a coolant flush. The DS1.11s have worked well this year but they may need replacing soon. The car needs to be MOT'd in November so it will need two rear tyres as the existing rear PS4s are now well worn. Ethan wants to install an oil temperature sensor and gauge, and, possibly an oil cooler. Ethan's plan is to make sure the engine runs as well as it can do and perhaps an oil cooler will help even if it is not entirely necessary?

With plans to go to the Nurburgring and put on a Cup Racer front end next year it could be an expensive 2024.
 
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