Replacing Engine Mount/Rubber Bush?

Discussion in 'Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust and Air Intake' started by Rishi, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. ///M

    ///M Gold Member

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    This is interesting. Now, I'm not mechanically minded by a long way but to me, the fact that they're known to settle down after a while means they're losing some of their stiffness. So if this happens so quickly, what about when you've put 10k miles on them?

    My gut feeling is that new OEM ones are the best way forward.
     
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  2. suj

    suj Paid Member

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    I think it's more like settled springs Mes, just with the movement of the engine etc.

    But I agree with you, why I have OEM torque and lower dogbone, as I am sick of the vibrations!
    It's my daily, not a track car, so most the time I spend is cruising on the motorway / stuck in traffic.
     
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  3. Rishi

    Rishi Platinum Member

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    Yep, my upper torque arm would knock when letting off the throttle (especially when cold/~5°c) so I replaced it with the yellow Powerflex bush kit and it made my steering vibrate during idle, especially with the a/c on. I stuck with it for a few thousand miles but my steering was still vibrating so switched to a new OEM/Renault torque arm and it feels much smoother now. Hopefully once it gets cold again it won't start knocking.
     
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  4. suj

    suj Paid Member

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    Exactly what I did yesterday mate, the car came with powerflex torque mount and dogbone, I haven't swapped the dogbone for an OEM yet, but I have put the OEM torque mount on, feels so much better already!!
    I'm glad I am not alone in the vibration being too much :smile:
     
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  5. Dystant

    Dystant Detailing Dale Paid Member

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    You're both just soft, car drives much better with them fitted :tongueout:
     
  6. Pav

    Pav Moderator

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    amen :french:
     
  7. suj

    suj Paid Member

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    Nope, it's the bushes that are "soft" now lol :wink:
    It's my daily, doing 80+miles a day, so I would rather it have no vibrations :smiley:
     
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  8. Kazumz

    Kazumz

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    I literally never even noticed any sort of vibrations when driving my clio, only when stationary which was also minimal. Perhaps it is more noticeable for people with more worn mounts. By replacing just the top and having worn oem mounts in the rest, it could be putting more reliance on the top arm for keeping the engine stable.

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  9. Rishi

    Rishi Platinum Member

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    I'll admit after fitting the powerflex bush kit it felt tighter but after switching back to OEM it feels more stable overall, altho it may be as I swapped the n/s/f upper link from europarts to OEM at the same time. I feel more comfortable knowing my steering system isn't having to deal with those extra vibrations, with the a/c on in traffic it was unbearable! I am a softie tho :wink:
     
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  10. suj

    suj Paid Member

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    Yep I think that too, why I have all new OEM mounts to go on, just the torque one was an easy one to do with a free 10mins lol.
     
  11. MARK200AE

    MARK200AE Platinum Member

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    Hi, I seem to be suffering the same issue at the moment. Vibrations / knocking when coming off the throttle, seems to be play in the upper engine mount.

    My question is - are the OEM rubber inserts available for purchase separately ?
    I’m struggling to find any online , any part numbers anyone could provide ???

    Many thanks in advance !!!
     
  12. suj

    suj Paid Member

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  13. MARK200AE

    MARK200AE Platinum Member

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  14. suj

    suj Paid Member

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    Because the bush is in a crimped cap, I assume they think people will just buy the whole arm.

    If you don't mind the extra vibrations, go for Powerflex, I had them on mine when I got the car, I took them off after the vibrations were annoying me!
     
  15. MARK200AE

    MARK200AE Platinum Member

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    Strange as the power flex is sold as just the bush.

    When you reverted back to standard did you have multiple Arm or just popped the bush out ?
     
  16. suj

    suj Paid Member

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    Not really, Powerflex make bushes for many car arms that aren't sold separately.

    No I had to buy a whole new arm
     
  17. VolumeX

    VolumeX

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    There is so much for and against them, i reckon its time for a proper poll and lets get a general idea/feedback?
     
  18. suj

    suj Paid Member

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    I'm in the "too many vibrations" camp, I do 22k miles a year, the vibration was driving me mad, so off they went.
     

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