Our Intake

[Mike Roberts]

That video is great.

I'm still not convinced removing it has any detrimental effect. It is called a "soundproofing unit"... that to me says its only function is to reduce induction noise at low RPM, which is typically what you use in urban areas where it matters.

I'm not saying remove it as I have, I haven't seen any gain, simply less loss when the car gets hot.

I suppose you could duct cold air to the opening of the valve, so at least when it opens it has a better supply?

 

[200cup andy]

that german vid reminds me of this lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbZg8QBJaMM


is show that it may work better having a pipe jammed over the end of it so it gets colder air, but after that its pretty much sorted as it is

 

[Mike Roberts]

Another thought.

It's generally accepted that the V6 airbox gives proven gains with no further mapping etc. Yes?

Does the V6 airbox use any sort of vac valve in the same way as the 197/200s??

 

[ryan197]

no not fitted in the 197, just a larger outlet, but i don remember thou, correct me im wrong reading that when raptor fitted an exhaust (miltek) and panel filter it drop in power then fitted V6 airbox and mapped and went up a few bhp above its original bhp figure. well i couldn be bothered with the v6 box, and didnt think much of the miltek system so i went doen the ktec exhaust, panel filter, matched inlets/throttle body, in which gained 3bhp after that then had it remapped and gain another 5bhp (that peak) so i think really if any gains using the v6 airbox is going to be miminal if anything.

 

[adam1942]

the thing that worries me is my car does not have number 3 (assuming its attached to the plastic mounted to the front of the car)

can anyone else confirm if this is just a 200 thing or if its on both and someones shafted me?

 

[Mike Roberts]

I wasn't really talking of gains with the V6 box, more so that it doesn't have the valve and has completely different flow characteristics... thus to my mind proving that the engine is more than able to deal with the flow change caused when removing the valve and adding a cold air feed.

I might be wrong, but I would assume the ECU has a fixed value based on the optimum. If it sees less airflow or higher intake temps, it retards the timing to suit - the more air you get in and the colder it is, the longer it retains that optimum setting??

That to my mind is why induction kits won't work on 197s/200s, as you can't get enough cold air to them and they're never fully sealed, so the pressure changes under the bonnet will wildly affect their flow.

 

[ryan197]

its difficult to see mate, if you removed the induction pipe from the grill and pull the pipe up to the airbox you will see it.

 

[Mike Roberts]

Adam, you can see the pipe run down at the front left of the battery box and it's it under the expansion tank.

 

[RalphyBMW]

run your fingers under the pipe that runs between the battery and engine, you will find a pipe coming from the bottom and running in front of the battery to the resonator. My '06 car had it so I would expect all 197 to have it.

 

[ryan197]

well i know one thing that may be down to this 2nd inlet, when i had my car mapped when matt did the last runs the peak power was decreasing the more he did due to the engine getting hotter, ay be down to the area sucking warmer air. i will eventually run a cold air from a inlet trumpet from under the car ( mounted in the bumpers undertray behind the fog light) upto the 2nd inlet, leaving the valve in place.

 

[Raptor6767]

no not fitted in the 197, just a larger outlet, but i don remember thou, correct me im wrong reading that when raptor fitted an exhaust (miltek) and panel filter it drop in power then fitted V6 airbox and mapped and went up a few bhp above its original bhp figure. well i couldn be bothered with the v6 box, and didnt think much of the miltek system so i went doen the ktec exhaust, panel filter, matched inlets/throttle body, in which gained 3bhp after that then had it remapped and gain another 5bhp (that peak) so i think really if any gains using the v6 airbox is going to be miminal if anything.

Clio with:
Miltek, K&N panel filter and remap
VS
Miltek, V6 airbox and remap (the same one)



It's not just the peak power but the power/torque increase at lower rpms.

In this setup (Miltek, V6 airbox and remap) my car ran great.

 

[Mike Roberts]

Thanks,

So we can possibly conclude from that - the valve doesn't affect running (as the V6 box doesn't use it) and the more air you can get in, the more power/torque you get.

 

[Raptor6767]

Thanks,

So we can possibly conclude from that - the valve doesn't affect running (as the V6 box doesn't use it) and the more air you can get in, the more power/torque you get.

Exactly that!

But I would add one more thing in your sentence: the more COLD air you can get in, the more power/torque you get.

The best but most expensive solution would be a Clio Maxi 2009 airbox with the K&N panel filter.

 

[Mike Roberts]

Yes - cold air indeed!

Sadly that won't fit a 200 - unless there's a new version??

 

[boxster]

Probably this will give a better illustration of the various intake components including the said valve :thumbup:.

 

[litchy]

Exactly that!

But I would add one more thing in your sentence: the more COLD air you can get in, the more power/torque you get.

The best but most expensive solution would be a Clio Maxi 2009 airbox with the K&N panel filter.

This is the route I'm going down. They've sent me the proforma invoice for the intake and my mate who does auto electric work for Jamsport is moving battery into the boot. Gonna also match the inlets. Just need to keep fingers crossed that I've got a job at the end of the month...!!!!

 

[Toad]

There's a place here which can install a v6 airbox for me, in a 200... What would stop the maxi airbox from also being fitted?

 

[SarGara]

Just read through this topic, interesting to say the least!

Id be reluctant with the Maxi airbox setup as it appears you have to cut through the front slam panel(the plastic bar?) to route the cold air. This to me is a massive no-no as your compromising the cars structure IMO.

 

[rabbit1986]

Interesting topic guys.

But I didn't find an answer to the question of you can remove the sound valve?

I'm in contact with a tuner, that has a custom made airbox for the clio 200.

Think I'm going to try that one.

 

[Craig_B]

I'm after the part number's of numbers 2, 6, 11, on the diagram shown in the first post. Can anyone give me a hand?

I've looked in the 'useful part numbers' thread don't think there in their, or on the link given in that thread to. Takes you to a different language site

Any help be great