At what point do you say "Enough is enough"?

[-Eddie-]

With my experience dealing with Renault on customers behalf, full dealer service history goes a long way to ensuring a discount on parts, also having owned Renaults before seems to go in your favour.

How many times does something need to happen though to make it a common fault? I doubt Renault would ever admit over the phone that the gearbox they put in the 197 was a weakness and common fault.

Generally though Renault are pretty good at helping customers out, I've seen high levels of discounts on items out of warranty or broken/damaged due to customer negligence.

 

[Rogue]

Is this your first Renault? bought from new? has it got renault service history?

Yes i have bags of renault history and my 200 was just out of warranty with full dealer history but i got 95% + free clutch on my box £220 iirc and my manifold i got 85% iirc which was about £160 for me to pay.

Yes, no, partial.

I don't go to Renault because I favour a specialist. The talks with them are ongoing. I've said I would get them a report but all she keeps saying is that the car is out of warranty. Which to be fair, that's fine. I know they're not obliged to do anything but if I had all them problem fixed at Renault I would be in for about 4grand. That's more than50% of what they car is worth, it may as well be written off.

i think they have a moral obligation myself.

But I won't hold my breathe.

 

[Warren]

After youve spent all that money fixing it I'd be keeping it and enjoying it.

 

[Mentalpen]

Yes, no, partial.

I don't go to Renault because I favour a specialist. The talks with them are ongoing. I've said I would get them a report but all she keeps saying is that the car is out of warranty. Which to be fair, that's fine. I know they're not obliged to do anything but if I had all them problem fixed at Renault I would be in for about 4grand. That's more than50% of what they car is worth, it may as well be written off.

i think they have a moral obligation myself.

But I won't hold my breathe.

They won't pay bugger all unless Renault do the work. That's because they will pay things at a different rate and pay trade prices for parts.

They will also negotiate with the Renault garage rates of labour on top.

So as an example, Renault will pay warranty labour at say 50% normal rate with you paying full. Their chunk of the part will be at trade and your portion at retail. Then finally they will negotiate with the garage doing the work to try and get you a better labour rate to try keep you a customer.

You need to make it clear you are looking to buy a 200T but no one will px a car in this state.

Also make it clear that this isn't a one off and these are "life parts" that should not require changing.

Also point out that both the gearbox and manifold require a large amount of the same work as in subframe removing so costs would significantly be reduced if done at the same time.

But like I say due to the above reason you will have to have Renault do the work to get anything out of them.

 

[smoggy mark]

I would go for B Pete.

 

[litchy]

Down to your personal circumstance mate. Getting out of the Clio could cost you a lot more than staying in it. Selling a Clio at moment isn't easy, and you'll have to put it back to standard unless your going to lose even more. Also (without being funny) I'd really question whether you can get the work done cheaper cause £1500 sounds a little steep....

Changing to a Meg 250 isn't really a cheaper option cause its 7k+ on top of yours is worth for an early one, plus thats not to say that it wont need work either. If you have to borrow the money, your also paying the interest on top of the money. How can that be the cheaper option unless your planning to get one anyway?? I guess thats applicable of any car you plan to buy.

 

[Mike]

It's always been option A for me i'm afraid.

Whilst I remember the amazing times I had in the 197 and the fun, I don't miss the ££££££

 

[GW200Jay]

Option B for me, once it's all fixed an you take her out on a B road or track you will remember why you got her!

:whatever::whatever:

 

[Rogue]

Down to your personal circumstance mate. Getting out of the Clio could cost you a lot more than staying in it. Selling a Clio at moment isn't easy, and you'll have to put it back to standard unless your going to lose even more. Also (without being funny) I'd really question whether you can get the work done cheaper cause £1500 sounds a little steep....

Changing to a Meg 250 isn't really a cheaper option cause its 7k+ on top of yours is worth for an early one, plus thats not to say that it wont need work either. If you have to borrow the money, your also paying the interest on top of the money. How can that be the cheaper option unless your planning to get one anyway?? I guess thats applicable of any car you plan to buy.

New gearbox fitted is £800.
new manifold fitted is circa £500
bumper resprayed is £300

im £1,500 before I've even got the bill from 519 which I already know won't be cheap based on the part required. I know you always run the risk of things going wrong when you buy a car but at the moment my car is failing with every common problem the clio suffers with. My MOT is due next month, I'm just waiting for them to tell me my ball joints are shot to top it all off lol

 

[nutnutwelshman]

Buy a Bike Pete sorry mate

 

[litchy]

New gearbox fitted is £800.
new manifold fitted is circa £500
bumper resprayed is £300

im £1,500 before I've even got the bill from 519 which I already know won't be cheap based on the part required. I know you always run the risk of things going wrong when you buy a car but at the moment my car is failing with every common problem the clio suffers with. My MOT is due next month, I'm just waiting for them to tell me my ball joints are shot to top it all off lol

Still sounds expensive mate. Recon box?

 

[Rogue]

New box, clutch and flywheel was 400. Labour is 400.

All adds up!

 

[Mentalpen]

Do the manifold and gearbox at the same time if your doing them.

 

[litchy]

New box, clutch and flywheel was 400. Labour is 400.

All adds up!

Guess so. Maybe I'm lucky to have SteC on my doorstep and be paying northern rates.....Like said, not sure why 519 are not doing them both at the same time???

 

[Tree200]

:whatever::whatever:

Was that a bit too cheesy?

 

[Rogue]

Guess so. Maybe I'm lucky to have SteC on my doorstep and be paying northern rates.....Like said, not sure why 519 are not doing them both at the same time???

Dan won't fit anything he doesn't supply. I already have the parts, so he's not interested!

 

[Gez]

That's shocking that he won't fit the parts...

 

[colwill197]

I understand why he wont to some extent. If something goes wrong and he supplied the parts then its his fault. If you supply and something goes wrong could end with a bitter argument that neither of you want to have.

 

[Jonesy]

I understand why he wont to some extent. If something goes wrong and he supplied the parts then its his fault. If you supply and something goes wrong could end with a bitter argument that neither of you want to have.

but is rogue signs a documents to say that 519 is responable for fitting only then whats the issue? that dan being a tit tbh

 

[colwill197]

Because how do you distinguish if a future fault is bad installation or a dodgy part. Playing devils advocate here but I see where Dan is coming from. Removes the hassle of a future issue for him.