Aftermarket Exhaust - Scorpion

Discussion in 'Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust and Air Intake' started by EvoClio, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. Jimmy

    Jimmy Good cop Administrator

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    I remember the first time I had mine (resonated) on the motorway and the drone gave me a headache... not pleasant at all. But honestly it seemed to either quieten off with time, or I just got used to it. I drove up to the Scottish highlands from Leeds and it never bothered me or my +1 at all.

    Some people however just don't seem to gel with them, full stop. I would have happily stayed with the OEM item, but as it was corroding, the best value for money was an aftermarket.
     
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  2. Johnny 99

    Johnny 99 Winner - POTM October 2018 Platinum Member

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    This was definitely the case with my resonated Cobra system. It was very loud at first. The garage that fitted it said it would quieten down after & few miles & it did. It can still be a bit droney on a long up hill stretch of motorway, but as soon as the road levels out it quietens down again.
     
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  3. Jimmy

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    I suppose it's the nature of the beast isn't it - there's always going to be those moments when it becomes a bit of (literal) headache, but then there will be the opposite when it sounds the business and puts the biggest smile on your face.

    It's a pity that the YouTube videos don't really give a clear enough impression of what they actually sound like 'for real'. I remember @Beany kindly taking me out in his 200 when he had the non-res and this was the best way to hear what they're like (obvs). Definitely worth catching a ride with someone who has one if you're undecided whether it's for you or not.
     
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  4. Beany

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    Haha I do miss that non res... but only if it involved short hooning
     
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  5. Micah

    Micah Clumsy McButterfingers Moderator

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    This reminds me of my Scorpion resonated disaster, with maxing out the db meter app at 99+
    Worst thing I ever did to my Mk3, I should have just bought an Akrapovic - absolute work of art.
     
  6. NickD

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    I'm sure it will suit some people and it also assumes it is not a manufacturing defect, it just strikes me as cheap. This was simply intended as a replacement exhaust to replace the standard on that was falling to bits. My requirement was "not loud".
    I know this is my opinion and not everybody's but I think it has turned it into a cheap Chav car.
    Anyway I will see what happens in discussions with Scorpion and the fitters. However, if anyone has proper good condition standard system I am pretty sure I will be open to a swap soon.
     
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  7. Johnny 99

    Johnny 99 Winner - POTM October 2018 Platinum Member

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    I can see why you think this Micah, but I'm not convinced you gave it time for the exhaust to settle down. My Cobra definitely quietened down after 500-1000 miles. Akra sounds ideal in theory but I dismissed it as strictly speaking removal of a cat is illegal & I took the view that a sports cat gave the MOT guy something to see! I know folk pass emission test with just the pre cat in the manifold. I'd rather play it safe with a sports cat. Obviously Akra do a system that keeps the original cat, but very few folk get that & bhp gains ate minimal.
     
  8. Jimmy

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    You were exactly who I had in mind when I said some people just don't gel with them! It is a massive thing to do a car because of the change in sound it obviously makes. And if you don't like it, it has the potential to ruin the whole experience.

    It's a pity you feel so strongly about yours @NickD and I really hope you get it sorted. I think if you were to offer up a swap to someone with a good condition OEM unit, you'll have your hand snapped off.
     
  9. krispe

    krispe Paid Member

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    Does the Akrapovic drone during normal driving?? I have the resonated Scorpion on my 197 which drones more than I like. I recently had the centre resonator cut out and replaced with a larger Jetex 5" diameter round silencer. This has made a slight improvement but still not as much as I would like. The Scorpion exhaust sounds great when you are 'on it' but in an ideal world I want the exhaust almost silent when I'm driving normally, (which I know is a lot to ask of any exhaust). NVH is a very personal thing, (I am 44 years old and quite NVH sensitive), but I know there are many very happy owners of the Scorpion exhaust. I think however I'm either going to have to buy a new standard exhaust or try the Akrapovic. What I don't want to do is pay £1k for the Akra and find that also drones more than I'd like! (I don't mind a louder exhaust than standard, my other car, Cayman GTS, is very loud, what I don't like is resonance/drone)!
     
  10. Beany

    Beany Platinum Member

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    you can normally get hold of a standard exhaust for free on FB as they’re not really worth anything..
    afew people complain the akra is too loud and some say it’s too quiet!
    Has it got a standard manifold ?
     
  11. Dmonk197

    Dmonk197

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    you say you have a standard system- before changing anything why not remove your center silencer for £50 and see how you get along.

    i did this and its one of the best mods i have done, so in love with the sound i get now from my car.
     
  12. krispe

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    Yup standard manifold, (although maybe that isn't in great condition either?) When I bought the car it had standard exhaust but centre silencer delete which gave a flat spot and also did not sound great so soon after buying it I fitted the cat back resonated Scorpion. In hindsight I should have just added a new centre silencer to the standard exhaust. I like the idea of Akrapovic, I don't mind some more 'volume' especially when driving hard, I just want more refinement when driving normally. (I know a Renault Clio rs is not exactly built for refinement but it's used as my 'fun' daily so would like minimal/zero drone if possible).
     
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  13. krispe

    krispe Paid Member

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    After a few 'Akrapovic' searches on this forum I think that may also drone more than I'd like so I have just bought a used standard one off ebay that looks almost brand new! I think as its used as a daily I just want minimal noise. My other 'fun' car has a sports exhaust which is very loud but sounds awesome for when I want to drive for fun/road trips etc. So I will soon have for sale a 4 month old 197 Scorpion resonated exhaust (with a larger centre silencer) which definatley sounds better than the one in the original posters NickD's videos :anguished:
     
  14. petercronin

    petercronin Paid Member

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    I don’t think the Akra drones usually, if you’re doing a steady 70 in 6th and then have to climb a steep hill it can drone a bit then but other than that if you keep the revs down you can barely hear it.

    Whereabout are you, if you’re nearby I don’t mind letting you hear mine in person?
     
  15. lewishunter98

    lewishunter98 Paid Member

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    Funnily enough, my ktec resonated was too much for me

    But then since going out in a friend's car with an oreca I really wanted one (Car isn't driven daily anymore)

    So I switched, and honestly the oreca is so much more bareable than the ktec was. I can actually drive it quietly. But then when I do want to be loud it screams. The ktec used to make noise constantly, just droning away. I hated it

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