Exhaust blowing

Dystant

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So noticed a strange humming/vibration noise whilst driving, definitely didn't sound right so popped bonnet and looked at exhaust manifold ... one of the flexipipes has snapped.

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I'm assuming it's this that's causing the weird humming/vibrating noise?

What's best course of action? Get cut out and weld a new one back in, anybody any idea how much this costs?

Or is it a case of getting a new manifold altogether? I've seen the Toyosport one for about £200 on eBay, so I was considering this? Heard it's a pain to change though so how much am I looking at in terms of labour?

Also, what other symptoms would this snapped flexipipe cause? Just the vibrating noise or does it affect performance in some way etc?
 
Hi again,lol. Manifold needs to come out which requires subframe dropping. Four hours labour, then need to decide Toyo manifold or replace flexis
 
Hi again,lol. Manifold needs to come out which requires subframe dropping. Four hours labour, then need to decide Toyo manifold or replace flexis

I'm not having much luck with this car am I :excited:

Sounds like for 4 hours worth of labour I may as well just pay the extra and get a new manifold all together to be honest... bit of a ballache, but I've heard the Toyosport one gives a bit better throttle response and maybe gain a few bhp so could be worse I guess.
 
Genuine manifold from Renault is an eye watering £900 odd quid! They don't leave the condom in your arse afterwards either. Flol! Or you can get one from rsport for about £380+vat. Go figure!
Toyosport manifold can be had for substantially cheaper!
 
I'm not having much luck with this car am I :excited:

Sounds like for 4 hours worth of labour I may as well just pay the extra and get a new manifold all together to be honest... bit of a ballache, but I've heard the Toyosport one gives a bit better throttle response and maybe gain a few bhp so could be worse I guess.
No you're not but is a common problem, so at some stage will need to be done so why not now.lol. Mine just done so I feel your pain. I had the flexis done but looking back should have gone toyo
 
You asked me about my experience of blowing manifold / Toyo manifold fitting via message. For the sake of the forum and helping someone else in future perhaps i'll write it here too:



Yes the Toyo is a direct replacement. Mine even came with a new gasket. Nothing else needed - as such.

I had my garage stick a notch in subframe to help with the possible knocking issue i'd read of. And i fitted uprated engine mount bushes at same time (This is THE reason why most manifolds / flexi joints cracking 1st place - as the flexis are under too much stress because the engine moves alot ). Hence its never knocked for me thankfully.

****I believe you can tilt the engine on the mounts slightly to to gain some more clearance ref the manifold and subframe too. The thing is though if you dont do the engine mounts at same time - the new manifold is still liable to take alot of pressure as the engine moves = more liable to crack again possibly. So its better to just do it once and do it properly IMO......so that means new polybushes. Cost of which is £50 for the two main ones needed and perhaps a couple of hours labour to fit.

I personally think you'll be looking at more like 6 hours labour for manifold swapping...... Not the 4 as mentioned. Unless an experienced subframe remover / Renault specialist does the job of course. My garage wouldn't have managed in 4 i dont think (Perhaps he would 2nd time around now though !!!!).

And then of course you might get into remap territory. Personally i thought mine was far worse bottom + mid-range with JUST the Toyo manifold on. Top end felt quicker perhaps. Again - i think this was actually because bottom end was so flat. ***Just what my butt-dyno was telling me as i never had it Dyno'd bog-standard or with just the manifold on though.

So this means you ideally want to perhaps get a complete system exhaust fitted along with anything else breathing mods-wise you might ever want in the future - and then only get mapped once.

When my manifold went i hit the lot in one go: to mean only mapping once as i just mentioned.

I believe i paid £440 for Scorpion system, £180 for the manifold, approx £125 for bushes and fitting, £225 ish for manifold fitting, £60 exhaust system fitting, £300 for mapping = £1350 odd all in.

But my thought process being - thats now stainless right through, along with uprated mounts so doesn't happen again and remapped to suit. Basically a system for life. Fingers crossed :smile:

Not the cheapest exercise in the World.

Best of luck - you deserve a little surely !!!!
 
No you're not but is a common problem, so at some stage will need to be done so why not now.lol. Mine just done so I feel your pain. I had the flexis done but looking back should have gone toyo

How much did it cost you in total to just have flexis repaired?

Genuine manifold from Renault is an eye watering £900 odd quid! They don't leave the condom in your arse afterwards either. Flol! Or you can get one from rsport for about £380+vat. Go figure!
Toyosport manifold can be had for substantially cheaper!

£900... bloody hell! Looks like it's definitely either repair or Toyo then!
 
How much did it cost you in total to just have flexis repaired?



£900... bloody hell! Looks like it's definitely either repair or Toyo then!
Well I bought second hand manifold with new flexis cos my manifold was cracked too so scrap. they quoted me four hours labour but it cost me a bit more as I had front springs done too. was about 400 all in manifold wise
 
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You asked me about my experience of blowing manifold / Toyo manifold fitting via message. For the sake of the forum and helping someone else in future perhaps i'll write it here too:



Yes the Toyo is a direct replacement. Mine even came with a new gasket. Nothing else needed - as such.

I had my garage stick a notch in subframe to help with the possible knocking issue i'd read of. And i fitted uprated engine mount bushes at same time (This is THE reason why most manifolds / flexi joints cracking 1st place - as the flexis are under too much stress because the engine moves alot ). Hence its never knocked for me thankfully.

****I believe you can tilt the engine on the mounts slightly to to gain some more clearance ref the manifold and subframe too. The thing is though if you dont do the engine mounts at same time - the new manifold is still liable to take alot of pressure as the engine moves = more liable to crack again possibly. So its better to just do it once and do it properly IMO......so that means new polybushes. Cost of which is £50 for the two main ones needed and perhaps a couple of hours labour to fit.

I personally think you'll be looking at more like 6 hours labour for manifold swapping...... Not the 4 as mentioned. Unless an experienced subframe remover / Renault specialist does the job of course. My garage wouldn't have managed in 4 i dont think (Perhaps he would 2nd time around now though !!!!).

And then of course you might get into remap territory. Personally i thought mine was far worse bottom + mid-range with JUST the Toyo manifold on. Top end felt quicker perhaps. Again - i think this was actually because bottom end was so flat. ***Just what my butt-dyno was telling me as i never had it Dyno'd bog-standard or with just the manifold on though.

So this means you ideally want to perhaps get a complete system exhaust fitted along with anything else breathing mods-wise you might ever want in the future - and then only get mapped once.

When my manifold went i hit the lot in one go: to mean only mapping once as i just mentioned.

I believe i paid £440 for Scorpion system, £180 for the manifold, approx £125 for bushes and fitting, £225 ish for manifold fitting, £60 exhaust system fitting, £300 for mapping = £1350 odd all in.

But my thought process being - thats now stainless right through, along with uprated mounts so doesn't happen again and remapped to suit. Basically a system for life. Fingers crossed [emoji2]

Not the cheapest exercise in the World.

Best of luck - you deserve a little surely !!!!
Uhmm
Mention please which are those two "main bushes" that need to be replaced to reduce the pressure on the manifold( i have new manifold few miles ago,but not from your reasons ) its genuine .. but still maybe i Should upgrade the bushes to avoid problems in the future .
 
One thing to check is other sections of your manifold, when mine was taken off and I checked it over not only had both flex is split but also the welds on the four pipes had hairline cracks, glad I just fitted the Toyo...
 
I think if you replace the upper engine mount the ride will be to harsh, I changed the upper torque mount and lower engine mount, got the car up on a ramp and revved the day lights out of it and there was minimal movement in the exhaust.

I think the concensus is: there's many ways to skin a cat ref upgrading the mounts. And which ones !

All i can tell you is - these are the ones i did [With Yellow series bushes] - and coupled with a gearbox Powerflex bush; i've got a solid engine, no manifold movement and after the first 500 miles.....virtually zero vibration whatsoever.

Others have fitted other combinations (like you) and had the same result im sure..... :smile:
 
One thing to check is other sections of your manifold, when mine was taken off and I checked it over not only had both flex is split but also the welds on the four pipes had hairline cracks, glad I just fitted the Toyo...

Yeah for the sake of the 6 hours labour it's going to cost to get the thing off, I'm just going to replace it with a Toyo manifold... it would be such a waste to just repair.
 
I bent the lip on the subframe where the manifold drop passes it, this did not knock or catch and this was before I uprated the bushes but I changed the bushes anyway..

I noticed on ebay the other night that there were a couple of Toyos cheaper at £169.00.
 
Seven so the ones you changed was the two links dystant sent?

@Legend@wheels

I sent those exact links to Dale by private message after he asked me what i fitted - and the links were taken from my ebay purchase page !!!! So yes.....

I used those two on the engine and this one on the gearbox:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POWERFLEX...444863?hash=item2a75e31d3f:g:8PUAAOSwHPlWeFQz

i had some vibration for the first few hundred miles. Now its barely even noticeable (Start-up only really) and the engine / manifold is just rock-solid.
 
sev,both of the bushes youve changed (engine ones) is comming as a cover on the OE ones ,correct?
I mean i dont have to take off/replace an existing part (just adding)
I just hope it wont fall lol(cuz it looks like its pushed in under natural pressure not something special)
 
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