planning a return... clio 200t mpg?

I average 29mpg

44 on a run if driven carefully

19 if having fun

11 on track

I'm averaging 35 mixed town and country roads. 29 in town normally and up to 53 on a long steady run is the most I've seen, although mid 40s is more realistic if making progress

You could get low 30's in a Megane without driving like miss daisy, just so you know

If you're going to get the LUX version with R-Link and if you've got an old SATNAV, keep hold of it as it will be cheaper to update the maps on that or even buy a new SATNAV than R-LINK for a year of quarterly updates, or so I thought when I bought a new subscription back in May for £55.

It would appear that Renault are trying to rip off it's customers and charge £55 per quarterly up date, so if you like to keep on top of your map updates by getting a years subscription like I did previously on my TomTom 1000 for the great price of £22 for four map updates during that subscription period. It will cost you £220 to keep it updated. It would appear Renault are taking the preverbial yellow liquid out of it customers

steve32c said:

If you're going to get the LUX version with R-Link and if you've got an old SATNAV, keep hold of it as it will be cheaper to update the maps on that or even buy a new SATNAV than R-LINK for a year of quarterly updates, or so I thought when I bought a new subscription back in May for £55.

It would appear that Renault are trying to rip off it's customers and charge £55 per quarterly up date, so if you like to keep on top of your map updates by getting a years subscription like I did previously on my TomTom 1000 for the great price of £22 for four map updates during that subscription period. It will cost you £220 to keep it updated. It would appear Renault are taking the preverbial yellow liquid out of it customers

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It's £150 for Tom Tom live for 3 years (live traffic etc) The Map updates are free regardless of whether you have that, you just plug the sd into your computer with the rlink software.

I have the tom tom live 3yr subscription all that does is give you traffic info, the latest map available is V9.3 mine is on V9.25 and refuses to see or update the map. Put a complaint in to the r-link help and basically all I got back from them was we don't do yearly updates. Have also raised this with renault uk CS who are looking into it........

It's still much cheaper than most manufacturers, it's high end tech at mass market supermini level, and they're a business not a charity.

The terms and conditions are quite clear, that within however long it is (I forget but I think a year) you can have one update free of charge and they are purchased at each update after that. Thank god it's not a CD based system like most or that would cost you a heck load more.

I don't understand why people are so angry for not understanding t&cs before purchasing something

I accidentally purchased something I wasn't meant to and Renault UK were quite quick to refund me my money and apologised for the inconvenience.
Apart from one funny update, that was rectified within 2 weeks, I've not had any issues with r link and find it pretty decent to use. Anyone who's been in my car have also commented on it and how well it seems to work

steve32c said:

I have the tom tom live 3yr subscription all that does is give you traffic info, the latest map available is V9.3 mine is on V9.25 and refuses to see or update the map. Put a complaint in to the r-link help and basically all I got back from them was we don't do yearly updates. Have also raised this with renault uk CS who are looking into it........

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Are you trying to update from the car or from a computer? Mine only updates from the laptop

Updating from the computer as per normal for map updates due to the size of the file 320Mb for V9.3 which it does not see for an update.

Maggi112 said:

It's still much cheaper than most manufacturers, it's high end tech at mass market supermini level, and they're a business not a charity.

The terms and conditions are quite clear, that within however long it is (I forget but I think a year) you can have one update free of charge and they are purchased at each update after that. Thank god it's not a CD based system like most or that would cost you a heck load more.

I don't understand why people are so angry for not understanding t&cs before purchasing something

I accidentally purchased something I wasn't meant to and Renault UK were quite quick to refund me my money and apologised for the inconvenience.
Apart from one funny update, that was rectified within 2 weeks, I've not had any issues with r link and find it pretty decent to use. Anyone who's been in my car have also commented on it and how well it seems to work

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You should work for Renault with line:-p, I don't have any issues with R-Link in the Car, it even does system updates on the quiet when they are small enough.
You have three months from purchasing the car in order to obtain your free map update (as TOMTOM release their updates quarterly your free update to the latest map is sorted) after that in order to update your map you are required to purchase a subscription, which normally is for one year so that you will get four map updates during that period.
The Live services does not cover map updates - it only feeds your system with traffic information for your route, petrol prices and the weather.
As for the corporate waffle about high end software - the mapping is not done by Renault they don't even deliver it to your door it's downloaded from Renault who obtain it from TOMTOM who are provided with the maps by another company (name escapes me).
My gripe is - I purchased a years subscription for UK map updates for one year at £55 (that's one update increment per quarter - Jan, Apr, July and Oct) or so I thought. To date I have only had the one update which is Aprils V9.25 now if Renault are ripping off its customers at £55 per quarterly update then that needs to be made clearer by stating that it is for one update only and even should be pointed out to potential buyers. As for their T&C's, they are generic waffle get out of jail babble and not tailored to individual apps.
So how do Renault justify charging as it stands, £220 for four updates to maps which aren't their property in the first instance, when a years worth of updates for my GoLive 1000 is £22 as a long term user (normally £46) and the updates to the TomTom app on my phone are free. (I use works transport and hire cars a lot hence the separate systems)

So use the stand alone?

My point is any manufacturer will charge you for it.

I know for a fact bmw charge £179 for a single map update for an X5 running a last gen idrive as an example. Stuff costs money, that's life, someone somewhere has gone out and surveyed roads etc and along the line people get paid, so why should that be given away for free?

Great if some map providers like to tom subsidise the cost if you buy their hardware, but you haven't bought their hardware?

Or am i not as tight as some owners?