Goods points raised Jimmy. Personally I think we've had a problem lately with a select group of members bad mouthing the site for their own personal wars, rather than for the good of the site (in fact it was calculated and deliberately aimed at tarnishing the site and causing this kind of in-fighting). When things like that are going on it can be difficult for the admin/mod team to see the wood for the trees (or, the real issues from the bitching and sh*t stirring). Things like that can do a lot of damage to a forum as it breeds a bad atmosphere. Hopefully we've gotten rid of a lot of that (with the exception of a few who just can't seem to help themselves from being childish). Threads like this, although they sometimes aren't a pleasant read are important to moving on through that and letting everyone clear the air, I'm glad that it's running its course and members (new and old) are getting their say. - so long as it's done in a respectful manner.