I posted this on renaultsport.co.uk forum also, but i'd like to hear your opinion and advice too.
I will just post the same text here. Hope that's ok with the mods. Quite a lengthy post ahead, will post some answers also.
Hey guys, i've been on a dyno today. My 200t is completely stock. I'm kind of shocked about the dyno result. Best run was 185 BHP.
My car is april 2014, 40.000 km, dyno runs were in race mode, no other tweaks
Friends megane 250 did 256, completely stock, late 2010, about 80.000 km, so the dyno does not underrate the cars.
What can be the problem? Can someone help me please?
The guy that did the dyno said, that i should get the compression check and change the spark plugs.
Also this is an insteresting dynoresult (first number is stock, 160 bhp on wheels, which is not far off of mine): http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KFO0NCG-7Fg/Vm_4HW_p9iI/AAAAAAAAGec/JX8MN6A0QnY/s1600/Renault+Clio+RS+200+EDC+downpipe+%28b%29.jpg
My torque was OK at 250 nm, stock is 240 nm.
If remaping the car should get it to about 230+ horsepower, that's 50 more than stock. Womble's clio does 244 if i'm correct, man that's 60 over.
Here are my dyno graphs:
Run 1:
Run 2:
Run 3:
1. The fan - it was about 2 metres infront of the car, not 100 mph by no means, it had about 80-90 cm across and blew quite a lot of air, but not 100 mph.
here's the fan size and position in front of the said megane250
2. Car ran for a few minutes to warm up properly, all the temps on my RS monitor were ok, intake temp between 23-26 degrees C. Air humidity was about 80%, 13 degrees C in the dyno room. We even opened the bonnet on the last two runs but the results were the same.
3. Fuel - no Vpower here in Slovenia, just super plus 100 octane fuel. Which is nothing special, basically the same as 98 octane fuel in other places (Austria, Italy, ...).
4. One pull was in 3rd gear, other in 4th. I think the graphs in a post above are all from 4th gear pulls.
5. Sound generator: i just found out, that the sound gets pumped into the cabin via air vents. How to block it off? Are there any guides?
6. No sensors were on the car, just a dyno day with some friends. He could do a full sensor analysis should I need one. So no boost data, nothing. This guy is quite knowledgeable about his business but too bad we didn't to a more thorough analysis. The rolling road itself were these huge rollers, it's supposed to handle 3500 bhp, it's 4 wheel drive capable and there can be a lot of sensors put on the car (boost, temperatures, whatnot).
What about the sparkplugs, should i change them? The car just did 40k km (25 k miles).
Should i try another dyno? I will not be doing another dyno just because, firstly i'll change the intake for a maxogen, maybe try with new spark plugs etc, most definitely i'll try with blocking the sound generator.
Thanks for your input, i'll try to post some new info along the way of getting more power from the car. The goal is to go above 230, there will be an RS Tuning remap (a guy here in Slovenia does them, even Paul was here a year or two ago, ...), i'll change the intake, maybe exhaust and IC. The latter if it'll be necessary, since i'll be doing some trackdays next year.
Another friend of mine said that i also should get the ignition timing checked. So - ignition timing, compression, spark plugs. For start.
Also some food for thought. I bought this car with 17.000 km on it. It was a bit less than 2 yrs old at that time. So about 8,5k km per year. It was also parked during both winters. When I first got it, it was quite muted, it did not pull well. That changed with time, because I was giving it a lot of spanking. Does anyone think that it might still be a bit muted because previous owned was really easy with it? Should I use some cleaning additives?
EDIT:
any opinion on this Recirculation Valve Kit from Forge? Should i do this mod too?
http://www.engine-dynamics.com/Products/Product.asp?departmentid=302&id=105670#
Edit2:
These two dyno graphs were also found:
[img=[URL]http://www.zerotohundred.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Final-Dyno-Results-Racechip.jpg]dyno1[/img][/URL]
[img=[URL]http://www.zerotohundred.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Renault-Clio-RS-RCU_Exhaust.jpg]dyno2[/img][/URL]
I will just post the same text here. Hope that's ok with the mods. Quite a lengthy post ahead, will post some answers also.
Hey guys, i've been on a dyno today. My 200t is completely stock. I'm kind of shocked about the dyno result. Best run was 185 BHP.
My car is april 2014, 40.000 km, dyno runs were in race mode, no other tweaks
Friends megane 250 did 256, completely stock, late 2010, about 80.000 km, so the dyno does not underrate the cars.
What can be the problem? Can someone help me please?
The guy that did the dyno said, that i should get the compression check and change the spark plugs.
Also this is an insteresting dynoresult (first number is stock, 160 bhp on wheels, which is not far off of mine): http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KFO0NCG-7Fg/Vm_4HW_p9iI/AAAAAAAAGec/JX8MN6A0QnY/s1600/Renault+Clio+RS+200+EDC+downpipe+%28b%29.jpg
My torque was OK at 250 nm, stock is 240 nm.
If remaping the car should get it to about 230+ horsepower, that's 50 more than stock. Womble's clio does 244 if i'm correct, man that's 60 over.
Here are my dyno graphs:
Run 1:
Run 2:
Run 3:
1. The fan - it was about 2 metres infront of the car, not 100 mph by no means, it had about 80-90 cm across and blew quite a lot of air, but not 100 mph.
here's the fan size and position in front of the said megane250
2. Car ran for a few minutes to warm up properly, all the temps on my RS monitor were ok, intake temp between 23-26 degrees C. Air humidity was about 80%, 13 degrees C in the dyno room. We even opened the bonnet on the last two runs but the results were the same.
3. Fuel - no Vpower here in Slovenia, just super plus 100 octane fuel. Which is nothing special, basically the same as 98 octane fuel in other places (Austria, Italy, ...).
4. One pull was in 3rd gear, other in 4th. I think the graphs in a post above are all from 4th gear pulls.
5. Sound generator: i just found out, that the sound gets pumped into the cabin via air vents. How to block it off? Are there any guides?
6. No sensors were on the car, just a dyno day with some friends. He could do a full sensor analysis should I need one. So no boost data, nothing. This guy is quite knowledgeable about his business but too bad we didn't to a more thorough analysis. The rolling road itself were these huge rollers, it's supposed to handle 3500 bhp, it's 4 wheel drive capable and there can be a lot of sensors put on the car (boost, temperatures, whatnot).
What about the sparkplugs, should i change them? The car just did 40k km (25 k miles).
Should i try another dyno? I will not be doing another dyno just because, firstly i'll change the intake for a maxogen, maybe try with new spark plugs etc, most definitely i'll try with blocking the sound generator.
Thanks for your input, i'll try to post some new info along the way of getting more power from the car. The goal is to go above 230, there will be an RS Tuning remap (a guy here in Slovenia does them, even Paul was here a year or two ago, ...), i'll change the intake, maybe exhaust and IC. The latter if it'll be necessary, since i'll be doing some trackdays next year.
Another friend of mine said that i also should get the ignition timing checked. So - ignition timing, compression, spark plugs. For start.
Also some food for thought. I bought this car with 17.000 km on it. It was a bit less than 2 yrs old at that time. So about 8,5k km per year. It was also parked during both winters. When I first got it, it was quite muted, it did not pull well. That changed with time, because I was giving it a lot of spanking. Does anyone think that it might still be a bit muted because previous owned was really easy with it? Should I use some cleaning additives?
EDIT:
any opinion on this Recirculation Valve Kit from Forge? Should i do this mod too?
http://www.engine-dynamics.com/Products/Product.asp?departmentid=302&id=105670#
Edit2:
These two dyno graphs were also found:
[img=[URL]http://www.zerotohundred.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Final-Dyno-Results-Racechip.jpg]dyno1[/img][/URL]
[img=[URL]http://www.zerotohundred.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Renault-Clio-RS-RCU_Exhaust.jpg]dyno2[/img][/URL]
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