Naturally aspirated - upgrade options.
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Haha, very nice kev but smoke from the tyres doesnt mean you are actually going anywhere....
You can see that at the local maccy ds for much less!
I remember looking at it hew it was for sale it was a high comp forged engine that's y it was 8k+ to build , itbs are no were ner that price
He only did the pistons and arp bolts. So wasn't completely forged. But he also needed a different dash, different ecu. It isn't cheap. And he only got the power he did because he had cams, head work, inlets, no cats etc etc, so that's where the 8-10k starts to come in. On a base car 6k for itbs surly won't get u beyond 210. And cams do that alone. So this is where it doesn't really become an option anymore and why only 1 has done it, same with mine lol
Spot on. Its not the cost of the ITB's, it getting them to work properly, other things had to be factored in which added to the additional costs to make the power to justify the expense. Its a major labour of love. I think even mike must have had points when he thought, why did I bother, I certainly have sitting at Bedford with car that I couldn't drive cause it was overheating on the track.
Yiannis197
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Since we talk possible engine upgrade routes, can someone who is more technical minded than me please explain what are the realistic gains to be expected with this upgrade?
http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=4804&appid=3
http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=4804&appid=3
It's a labour of love whatever route you go down because these cars are so highly strung from the factory and they're really not cheap to tune. The F4R doesn't have much left to give unless you throw serious money at it but there are ways to just enhance the characteristics it already has, such as cams and the usual breathing modifications.
As everyone is aware by now I've gone to the darkside that is FI. This wasn't something I'd ever planned on and infact I was on the fence about even going so far as to swap the cams but sometimes cars throw you a bit of a curveball and before you know it you're balls deep in parts!!! My one piece of advice, regardless of what route you go down, would be decide on your spec' and organise a deadline/timeframe with whoever is doing the work from the outset. It will make life infinitely more simple and less stressful if you do that...
As everyone is aware by now I've gone to the darkside that is FI. This wasn't something I'd ever planned on and infact I was on the fence about even going so far as to swap the cams but sometimes cars throw you a bit of a curveball and before you know it you're balls deep in parts!!! My one piece of advice, regardless of what route you go down, would be decide on your spec' and organise a deadline/timeframe with whoever is doing the work from the outset. It will make life infinitely more simple and less stressful if you do that...
Fernandez
Gold Member
Higher rev limit but you'll need major head work for them to fit. You'd also need to forge the engine to get the best possible gains so your still looking at a £6k+ engine build for less horsepower and much less torque than my Meg engine.
Higher rev limit but you'll need major head work for them to fit. You'd also need to forge the engine to get the best possible gains so your still looking at a £6k+ engine build for less horsepower and much less torque than my Meg engine.
This.
pretty much decided by reading this thread that I'm going to get everything perfect - niggly bits put right, back seats out, fixed buckets and harnesses in, then get a megane donor car and get the engines swapped, or atleast the engine in my clio. should be a pretty little project for me and my dad, just wondering guys, will I loose my keyfree stuff? or will I just swap the coding from one ECU to the other as if I was fitting a brand new ECU to my old engine? I'm going to have to have a good chat with some of you lads who have done this before I crack on.
can't wait to get started though!
Fernandez
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I've been weighing this up the last few weeks and in my head Meg engine seems way forward imo, but does it lose any feeling of being the Clio or is it what it should be??