Pictures - 197FF V 200 Cup Suspension....

[RichW]

For reference, a few pics showing the difference between the two..


Front struts - 197 Top, 200 Cup bottom...

 

[RichW]

Cup is the shorter one :-p

 

[RichW]

Finally the rears, again, 197 top, 200 Cup bottom....

 

[edd1e]

should prove very helpful for some people mate, great job!

 

[RichW]

should prove very helpful for some people mate, great job!

Cheers, just wish i had taken some of the car, before and after! doh!

 

[RalphyBMW]

Looks like the 200 Cup uses the springs as the 197 Cup, based on the colour code

 

[RichW]

Looks like the 200 Cup uses the springs as the 197 Cup, based on the colour code

The cup suspension was bought off ebay as being 200 - could be 197, can any 200 cup owners confirm??? You should be able to see without removing a wheel.

 

[RalphyBMW]

The springs could well be the same, I was checking on parts commonality with Karl as I did think about buying these but he could only reference springs by colour coding.

I think the only differences between 197 Cup and 200 Cup are;

Dampers
ARB
Steering rack

Also I think someone suggested the top mounts are different?

 

[RichW]

I'm presently looking for a ARB, i know the steering is supposedly better on the 200, but wasnt sure if it was the rack or some other steering components that make it "better".

The top mounts share the same numbers and look to be the same, they certainly fit the same :biggrin:

 

[RalphyBMW]

It is the rack itself that is quicker, something like £350-£400 iirc

 

[RichW]

It is the rack itself that is quicker, something like £350-£400 iirc

Cheers, will keep a eye out for a rear ended 200 cup :bumpit:

 

[grant197]

hi all is there any difference between 197 springs and the 197 cup springs?

 

[RichW]

hi all is there any difference between 197 springs and the 197 cup springs?

Yes - the cup springs are shorter and also stiffer to go with the stiffer cup dampers

 

[ashe]

i thought i heard that the front anti roll is different for the standard rs197 to the rs197cup?

 

[RalphyBMW]

Not on the 197, but it is on the 200 Vs 200 Cup IIRC.

 

[grant197]

so im ok to put cup springs on my 197?

 

[ashe]

Not on the 197, but it is on the 200 Vs 200 Cup IIRC.

ah! so for the 197, if we want a cup conversion is just the suspension?

grant197, if you're putting the 200cup springs then makes sense to put the anti roll bar off the 200cup as well. get the balance.

 

[grant197]

no just putting the springs on for now just want it i bit lower without going too low

 

[Foxspeed]

The springs could well be the same, I was checking on parts commonality with Karl as I did think about buying these but he could only reference springs by colour coding.

I think the only differences between 197 Cup and 200 Cup are;

Dampers
ARB
Steering rack

Also I think someone suggested the top mounts are different?

i did read that the perfo-hub front swivels have been "imporved"