hub ball joint f**Ked!!

Discussion in 'Suspension, Brakes & Steering' started by litchy, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. mr angry

    mr angry Paid Member

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    Location:
    Glasgow
    Car:
    clio 197
    I have just realised the upper joint is on the other part of the swivel hub assembly so it would just be the abs sensor to refit
     

  2. krispe

    krispe Paid Member

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    Car:
    Cayman GTS,
    Gutted to see this. I feel like I have just been raped by Richard Sanders Renault Northampton. Took car to them last week due to vague steering and check esp light coming on. They diagnosed the issue as play in track rod arms and worn threads between inner and outer, (although they fitted a new track rod arm back in July for the previous owner....) Should have taken the car somewhere else then but I agreed for them to replace both inner and outer, (they said both sides needed doing). When they went to fit the new track rods they said the insert on the hub carrier the track rod end goes through is missing and was probably why my steering had play???? How on earth it could be missing is beyond me, it is impossible to fall out by itself unless it just dissolved???!!! They said you cannot buy the insert separately and I had to buy a complete new hub carrier and new wheel bearing (unfortunately I had not seen the above ebay link). Final bill came to £1075!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had already bought upper and lower ball joints from R-Sport ready to replace the originals as part of a suspension refresh in due course, hence now having a spare lower for sale. Will never take my car to a Renault main dealer again! Will most likely drive to RS Four Ashes in Wolverhampton instead next time any work is required!
     
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  3. Rishi

    Rishi Platinum Member

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    Location:
    NWLDN
    Car:
    197 Cup Albi Blue
    It's worth checking the upper ball joint while you're there, if it requires replacement I reckon it also needs to be pressed out. I didn't have any issues with the abs sensor when I replaced the whole hub carrier but the car was only a few years old back then, I hear they can seize in quite tight.

    You'll need a decent ball joint splitter to split the lower and upper hub carrier. There's a full write up in the how to section.

    Yeah, if anyone buys that reconditioned lower hub carrier make sure it comes with the collar for the track rod end to sit in, or swap out your old one before sending it in on surcharge.
     
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  4. mr angry

    mr angry Paid Member

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    Location:
    Glasgow
    Car:
    clio 197
    Thanks, I had a look at guide and all seems relatively straight forward apart from the chocolate bolts Renault used.

    I have had a look and it just seems to be the lower joint that is gubbed, I just cant decide whether to go for the joint itself or the refurbished carrier which may mean buying a sensor as mine may be a bitch to remove whole.
     
  5. Rishi

    Rishi Platinum Member

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    Location:
    NWLDN
    Car:
    197 Cup Albi Blue
    I was dubious about the pinch bolt but it came out fairly easily after plenty of release spray, a bit of drilling, tapping in a screw extractor and applying some heat. I found removing and refitting the wheel arch liner was the most tricky part of the job. :tearsofjoy:

    After an accident I replaced the entire hub carrier and the abs sensor slid out no problem, I think it'll be fine as long you're not too forceful baring in mind it's plastic.
     
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  6. APM

    APM Site Trader

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    Location:
    Sussex/ UK
    Car:
    RENAULT SPORT
    We have had our fair share of trying to get out some seized pinch bolts. The most common one is the one on the EE bracket.
    We have welded a nut on the existing OEM button head bolts in the past then simply swap them over for a more robust bolt as found on the cup race cars.

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  7. Jimmy

    Jimmy Good cop Administrator

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    Leeds, W Yorks
    Really sorry to hear about this, that is rotten luck. I had a bad experience with a main dealer that also resulted in a stupidly expensive bill - needless to say, I never went back to them, or any other, after that. It's the same for any make/model of car though, it seems like they all just want to shaft you out of as much money as possible - and from my experience, they don't even do the work to a decent standard anyway!!


    Specialists may be that little further away, but I would always recommend going to them instead of a dealer. A specialist will know these cars inside-out and they will only do the work that's required. Plus it'll be a specialist tech that's doing the work, not some snot-nosed apprentice who just sees your car as another on the list for that day. The hub ball joint is a prime example - no need to get the whole assembly, but a dealer will insist on it :censored:

    Rant over :smile:
     

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