Hi Frank thank you for your comment, I don’t believe it is the heat shield as it is a solid metallic juddering sound rather than a reverb form the heat shield, also I have had more clips put in to stop some noise I originally had, it’s more coming from the manifold branch/back of the engine. It is a toyosport manifold and has got the appropriate Powerflex fittings on so It’s not banging on the sub frame. Just seems like a strange one to me, I do wonder if it’s anything to do with the timing on the car or the injectors but without proper diagnosis it could be anything