Air con delete

Discussion in 'Engine, Gearbox, Exhaust and Air Intake' started by Siliconsteve, Jul 27, 2017.

  1. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Location:
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    Clio 197
    how many ways to delete air con? Don't see why I can't fit a shorter belt? Tensioner still pushes down on back of belt.
     

  2. A1axx

    A1axx

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    Location:
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    Car:
    Clio 197 Race Car
    172 crank pulley, no tensioners and 4pk 810 sf stretch belt.


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  3. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Thanks for reply. Should have said it's a meg engine if makes any difference. Sorry !
     
  4. A1axx

    A1axx

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    Location:
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    No difference mate, I have just removed my F4r for an f4rt conversion and it will be the exact same setup. Been done plenty.


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  5. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Any reason why you can't just fit correct length belt after removing air con
     
  6. A1axx

    A1axx

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    Location:
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    Car:
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    Give it a try, stretch belt way takes a good weight off the crank pulley with the 172 item, and there's no issues in normal running


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  7. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Car:
    Clio 197
    I've found a pulley on eBay and gates do a belt. I assume I can use the original alloy mounting plate and just remove pump and pipes etc
     
  8. Wisenatcho

    Wisenatcho Paid Member

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    Sorry to jump in, but is this the right pulley from a 1*2 Clio? It's listed as an idler pulley, but seems to have right mount... upload_2017-7-28_8-42-21.png
     
  9. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Car:
    Clio 197
    He's saying you don't need it. Just crank pulley and belt
     
  10. Wisenatcho

    Wisenatcho Paid Member

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    ahh ok thanks. So what does the crank pulley look like? searched ebay quickly for one earlier and only found the thing above
     
  11. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Location:
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    Car:
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    Ok so found one on eBay but doesn't look too hot. Can't find a good one anywhere. Am I right in thinking not good idea to fit lighter solid pulley as losing the harmonic balancer is a bad idea ?
     
  12. tombate911

    tombate911 Paid Member

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    Car:
    2010 Clio RS200
    I run the kit @Flacsi makes on here with the smaller lightweight pulley.
    Had a few teething issues with the bolt coming undone on the pulley but two 50p nordlock fittings fixed the kit and makes it perfect.
     
  13. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Location:
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    Car:
    Clio 197
    I found a solid crank pulley on eBay which I think will just use with no tension as said earlier
     
  14. tombate911

    tombate911 Paid Member

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    888
    Car:
    2010 Clio RS200
    That's the kind of set up I run. Just the smaller crank pulley and a belt that goes around the alternator. Instead of using a stretch belt though I use a little adjustable link on the alternator to set the belt tension. It all comes as a kit anyway.
     
  15. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Location:
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    Car:
    Clio 197
    The smaller crank pulley doesn't cause charging issues?
     
  16. tombate911

    tombate911 Paid Member

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    888
    Car:
    2010 Clio RS200
    Nope no issues.
    Been running it for 6 months.
    If anything the alternator will spin slower, I think roughly by about 25-30% so it would be the same effect as driving at 2.5k Around town rather than 5k on the motorway.
     
  17. Siliconsteve

    Siliconsteve

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    Location:
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    Car:
    Clio 197
    Do you use the standard alloy bracket and just lose the pump or do you have to use bracket from cup ? I was hoping to just remove air con pump and fit a belt
     
  18. tombate911

    tombate911 Paid Member

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    888
    Car:
    2010 Clio RS200
    Standard bracket, lose the pump add the adjustment link to the alternator so it's position can be changed. Pop on the
    alternator belt and set the tension.
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2017
  19. Sparky197

    Sparky197 Paid Member

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    Car:
    2009 197 cup, 2013 V8 M3, 2004 172, 1964 moggy turbo pickup
    Sorry to bumpman old thread. Any one know where I can buy the bits I need?

    Bought airtec rad and need to clear some space
     
  20. Gorman

    Gorman Paid Member

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    Location:
    Ireland
    Car:
    RB 197
    As above, any definitive kit/guide to this? Would like to fit a lightweight crank pulley too. Is this possible?
     

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