2012 clio 3RS RB7 #166
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peter
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thanks. plan was to do a similar one at spa in front of eau rouge, but it was pissing down by the time i got time to think about taking pics.
Gordini
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two trackdays since the last post in here. one at spa-francorchamps (JPRS - sadly no pics) and one at mettet ...
michelin cup 2's holding up pretty well. even in the rain at spa. plenty of life still in them. i thought about buying some genuine semi slicks when the cup 2's are done, R888R or direzza's. now, i'm not so sure anymore. my suspension is stock and i doubt i'll be getting the most out of semi's.
Stunning photo, stunning wheels, stunning car!
peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
since my last post, i had the boot debadged and got myself some gloss black diamond covers. quite pleased with how the car looks now. much more cleaner look. reminder to myself : take some photos, idiot!
more importantly, i've changed the brake pads. the ferodo DS2500's (fronts) were replaced with galfer racing FDRT1066 (front and rear). i desperately wanted to try some track focused brake pads, just to feel the difference with the ferodo's. the difference is huge! insane how much more the galfer racing pads bite compared to the DS2500's. even after two trackdays, i'm can't get over the fact how much later and harder i can stop the clio and still have a bit of a safety margin.
looking for pads, i searched the internet. doing so, you get tons of info. actually too much info, often contradictory. so, after taking cost into considiration i ended up with this shortlist : ferodo DS1.11, endless A06 (popular on german clio's) and galfer racing FDRT1066. went for the FDRT1066's, because they're 'unknown' to me (i know, silly reason) and contact with the dutch seller was friendly and informative. don't regret the purchase at all, but probably will buy ferodo DS1.11 next time. just to see for myself, how they compare to the FDRT1066's. downside of these pads, they produce a lot more dust than the DS2500's (don't mind) and sometimes modulation is difficult. i'm not sure how much that is related to my worn tyres, or to the fact that i'm still running stock brake lines. would love to get me some stainless steel brake lines, but those are sadly a big no-no for belgian MOT.
i also did my first two laps of the famous nürburgring. almost sh*tted my pants on that first lap! hugely impressive and daunting place. would love to go back, but preferably on a week day, instead of an overly crowded sunday.
more importantly, i've changed the brake pads. the ferodo DS2500's (fronts) were replaced with galfer racing FDRT1066 (front and rear). i desperately wanted to try some track focused brake pads, just to feel the difference with the ferodo's. the difference is huge! insane how much more the galfer racing pads bite compared to the DS2500's. even after two trackdays, i'm can't get over the fact how much later and harder i can stop the clio and still have a bit of a safety margin.
looking for pads, i searched the internet. doing so, you get tons of info. actually too much info, often contradictory. so, after taking cost into considiration i ended up with this shortlist : ferodo DS1.11, endless A06 (popular on german clio's) and galfer racing FDRT1066. went for the FDRT1066's, because they're 'unknown' to me (i know, silly reason) and contact with the dutch seller was friendly and informative. don't regret the purchase at all, but probably will buy ferodo DS1.11 next time. just to see for myself, how they compare to the FDRT1066's. downside of these pads, they produce a lot more dust than the DS2500's (don't mind) and sometimes modulation is difficult. i'm not sure how much that is related to my worn tyres, or to the fact that i'm still running stock brake lines. would love to get me some stainless steel brake lines, but those are sadly a big no-no for belgian MOT.
i also did my first two laps of the famous nürburgring. almost sh*tted my pants on that first lap! hugely impressive and daunting place. would love to go back, but preferably on a week day, instead of an overly crowded sunday.
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peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
cheers mate.
nothing planned yet. would like to go during the week. preferably on a friday afternoon or evening (i only live about a 90 minutes drive from the place). anyway, i think i need some new tyres first. this is how my cup 2's looked like after my last trackday at spa, last friday ...
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peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
not sure really. they only have about 14 hours of (hard) track work on them. i know that tracks like zolder and mettet are notoriously hard on tyres (and brakes), but i wasn't expecting this. maybe i'm running too low tyre pressures for these michelins (32 psi front and 29 psi rear when warm)? i'll ask when i get them changed. these are the fronts btw. rears look knackered too, but not nearly as bad as the fronts.
looking to buy yokohama AD08R now. just to see how they compare to the cup 2.
looking to buy yokohama AD08R now. just to see how they compare to the cup 2.
I have Yokohama AD08R on my car now, although i dont use them for track i would be buying them again.
peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
yeah, i hear nothing but good things about those yoko's. looking forward to give them a hard time.
yeah, i hear nothing but good things about those yoko's. looking forward to give them a hard time.
Keep me updated with how they last when under pressure, will be interested to hear.
peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
yup. just like the michelin cup 2, the yoko is basically a road tyre which can take more abuse on the track than a regular sports tyre (michelin pilot super sport, conti CS6, goodyear eagle F1 AS3, ...). true semi slick tyres (888R, direzza, A048, ...) are race tyres allowed for use on the street.
cup 2's and AD08R's are not as fast on a track than semi slicks, but they (should) last longer.
Pav
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pretty sure the AD08'R's are a semi slick tyre..
http://whichtyres.com/2015/05/yokohamas-road-and-track-tyre-ad08/
Pav
Moderator
that's it mate..they are great..used them as a road legal tyre and track tyre too..even the wet grip is very decent and beats some of the decent brands classed as all year rounder..
peter
POTM Winner - February 2017
nope. common mistake. just like the michelin cup 2, the AD08R's are not genuine semi slicks. treadwear on both tyres are 180. treadwear on semi slicks vary between 60 and 100 (depends on which compound). the lesser that rating, the stickier the tyre.
here's a link to the predecessor to the AD08R, the AD08 ... http://www.yrc.co.jp/release/?id=1414&lang=en
yokohama themselves classify the AD08 under 'passenger car summer tyres' as a street tyre ...
http://www.yokohama-online.com/Tyres/Car-Tyres/Passenger-Car-Summer-Tyres/(product)/AD08
while the (yoko semi slick) A048 is classified as a motorsport tyre ... click on the 'motorsport tyres' tab and a pdf will open ...
http://www.y-yokohama.com/global/product/tire/
(when i got the cup 2's, i sent michelin belgium an email asking them some specs (size, weight, what pressures to run) about the cup 2's. in their reply, they specifically told me that the cup 2 shouldn't be considered a semi slick.)
