I'm doing a Mac vs. PC presentation...

I'm doing a presentation at work on Friday comparing Mac's against PC's.

I am a Apple fanboy and looking for a few ideas that could be threw in, I can picture myself sounding like an employee but since Apple aren't actually paying me I want some 'pros' for having a PC.
I know they will be better for gaming, speccing your perfect system and upgrading components when you feel like it but I need some good sides of owning one on a day to day basis.

Please feel free to voice your Mac's pros and cons too.

Thank you :smile:
 
going down that route isnt a smart one.. PC's run windows they also run loads of different types of linux / unix distro's which are also just as unlikely to get infected the same as apple IOS

Curley are you looking at getting you're work to buy mac's instead of pcs? They will look at the price of the system + any integration they need to pay for and so on and most likely say no. why upgrade if everything's working fine?
 
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Things have changed since the release of Windows 7. 64 bit systems are a lot cheaper and if they are built and maintained properly then they are just as stable and secure as a Mac.

Mac's are very elegant in their design but personally out of their range I would only buy a Mac Book Air because of its portability and power. Desktop and gaming on my custom Win 7 64 bit is untouchable at the moment.

Also Windows 8 is going to be even more of a threat to OSX.
 
Macs can get viruses too I think?

2 advantages I see of PCs over MACs, there is a much wider range of software available on PCs and most software that's available on MACs is also available on PCs. The other big point is that most people are familiar with windows operating systems and people don't like change. Employees will definitely see the view 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' and will see the move to mac as an inconvenience and annoyance.
 
Mac's are just rediculously expensive. That's not to say they arn't good, but technology is so competitive these days whether it's consoles, phones, computers, data centres, routers, servers etc.

Windows 7 has really closed the gap and Microsoft will continue to do that with Windows 8. Apple arn't innovating, they are just making nice products like everyone else (Google, Samsung, Microsoft, HTC etc). There is nothing outstanding or new about the latest Mac's. It's all been done before.

Apple are now moving into the gaming market with high end Mac's and heavy weight portable devices like the iPad 2. Microsoft are improving their OS and moving into mobile and portable. It's horses for courses...kinda like what the Teleco's have done in the last ten years by moving into mobile and TV, broadband and covering a broader range of products with their underlying technology.
 
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Best thing you can do is demo similar tasks on each machine, such as setting them up out of the box (might not be relevant for employees, but would be for your IT dept), writing email etc.

Does Windows have native PDF support yet? That's a good one to show, opening in Preview vs downloading and installing Adobe Reader.

Also show installing software like Firefox - dragging to apps folder vs the Windows install process.

There's probably a load more little things like this which all add up.
 
Best thing you can do is demo similar tasks on each machine, such as setting them up out of the box (might not be relevant for employees, but would be for your IT dept), writing email etc.

Does Windows have native PDF support yet? That's a good one to show, opening in Preview vs downloading and installing Adobe Reader.

Also show installing software like Firefox - dragging to apps folder vs the Windows install process.

There's probably a load more little things like this which all add up.

I don't think any ofthis is innovation thought mate, it's just a different way of doing things.

There are plenty of things that arn't natively supported in both O/S. MKV splitting, Flash support...
 
I don't think any ofthis is innovation thought mate, it's just a different way of doing things.

Not just different, faster. Faster means saving money and once the initial cost of the Macs is recouped you're making savings.

There are plenty of things that arn't natively supported in both O/S. MKV splitting, Flash support...

True, but PDF reading and writing is quite a daily occurance for of a lot of companies these days, splitting MKVs isn't.

If the OP is proposing that his company switch to Macs he needs to show that they can save time and money. Even if it's not as a direct result, for example staff aren't so frustrated with the computers so the are happier at work.
 
I think taking all the above into account, the one key fact to remember these days, in that a Mac uses the same parts as a PC. So the comparison isn't the hardware but the price, the software and how the software uses the hardware.

For instance, is Mac OSX better at using a Core i7 than Windows 7? And what about 3rd party software in these environments?

A real world situtation for you is that I had to make this decision this time last year. This will take into account all the above opinions, but in reality is me making a business decision over which OS to use.

So, Mac or PC? My decision boiled down to having my first opportunity to really upgrade my graphics teams capability, speed and last but not least, making them happy with the the technology they would have to use for 3 years. (3 years is the general term the business writes off the cost of the machines against tax and while a minor point warranties are usually only good for 3 years.)

My team is split over 3 sites, Warwick, London and Amsterdam. We'll ignore the IT infrastructure side (networks, etc) as that is already - although poorly - taken care off. The team covers a lot of discplines, from Print, to Web, to Video, all to support our client facing teams. We use the Adobe Creative Master Suite. Last year Adobe released version 5 (V5.5 is out now) and this had some major imporvements over the previous versions. For the sake and length of this piece I'm going to cover video and Premiere.

Adobe had finally moved the platform to 64bit and had introduced major improvements to Premiere with the Mecury playback engine. Essentially if I edited a video in a previous version I would need to 'preview render' at various stages to see any effects or filters I'd added in realtime*. This isn't to say it wouldn't play - it just struggled greatly with multiple effects and mulitple clips. It also allows various different types of clips to be used in the same edit, but that's also another story.

What Mercury did was to take the graphics card and use the huge GPU's on them to play the video(s) in realtime.

So knowing the above I had decided that I wanted an Intel Core i7, as much ram as you could shake a stick at, an SSD - we went with dual 128GB SSD's on it's own 6Gbps bus and a secondary hard disk array with 2TB - run off a 6Gbps raid card. I could have got larger hard drives, but it's important that any member in my team be able to quickly pick up a job from someone else, so having a small amount of local storage helped me make them use network storage! Finally I needed the special graphics card that would let me run MERCURY. This turned out to be a nvidia Quardo graphics card (sorry ATI, but Mercury is nvidia only).

Now problem one is that Macs didn't do Nvidia. You'll notice that all the Adobe marketing material showing Mercury, runs off Windows 7 -but let's not rule Macs out for a silly thing like that shall we? Let's assume they can run nvidia cards.

My next fight was to convice IT that we HAD to run Windows 7. The company as a whole is still stuck on 32bit XP. So I stretched the truth and insisted that we needed 64bit windows 7 and not just 64bit. But I could have run Macs if I wanted to (and if the graphics card issue wasn't an issue) and let's remember I manage designers - they're a fickle bunch who usually sleep with macs and won't entertain any other machine - so I had to think about what environment they'd want to work in. I didn't get macs. But why didn't I?

The reason is actually fairly simple. I had a BUDGET. My PC's cost me £3.5k each, (with a the 27" montior, but excluding VAT). They had the above spec with a Quad core I7 960 (overclocked) and 12GB of ram. A lovely company called Workstation specialists built them for me (and you wouldn't believe the battle I had NOT to go DELL).

Anyway - I'm being specific about the spec here because if you go to this page...

http://store.apple.com/uk-business/configure/MC560B/A?mco=MTg2OTUwMjE

...and build yourself a similar Mac Pro you'll find that even though you can't have the much more expensive graphics card I got, you'll still be over £1700 dearer - and this is a year after I've been using these machines. In fact a year ago the price difference was more like £4000. In the end I've bought 2 workstations, and 3 laptops (all similar spec). I must thank Apple though. If it wasn't for their silly pricing, I wouldn't have got away with the high spec I did.

So Mac or PC. Forget everything else. In the real world, with a budget, I'd buy PC every time. Does a mac run the same programs a few percent faster? Most probably. Is it worth the extra money? No.

(I do apologise for the long post!)

*so on this basis along my team were saving HOURS per job, just through a hardware upgrade, only available to the PC.
 
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