springs

[chris hughes]

has anyone put springs like h and r or eibach on a cup set up?? iv heard its bad but id like to no specifics.. raptor i believe you have some experience mate lol u seem to know everything.. any advice would be great

 

[jase]

keV has my old H&R springs on his cup.

 

[RussZS]

I had them on my R27 and I think it ruined the ride quality completely, and made the car unpredictable at speed on less than perfect roads.

I'd save up for coilovers.

 

[Raptor6767]

has anyone put springs like h and r or eibach on a cup set up?? iv heard its bad but id like to no specifics.. raptor i believe you have some experience mate lol u seem to know everything.. any advice would be great

A friend of mine had Eibachs on his R27 and it was terrible - he had them just long enough for the KW V3 to arrive.

Don't do it.

If you want to lower your car go for the coilovers.

 

[Liambo-201]

This is a question i wanted answered too, so thanks

Is it really that bad? I can't really justify paying for coilovers and im well aware that if i want the best i got to pay for the best..

 

[Raptor6767]

This is a question i wanted answered too, so thanks

Is it really that bad? I can't really justify paying for coilovers and im well aware that if i want the best i got to pay for the best..

YES - IT'S THAT BAD - so bad he went immediately for coilovers that are 8x expensive than the springs.

 

[Liambo-201]

Cool, well thanks for the heads up. Looks like my car will be staying at standard height! lol

 

[RussZS]

Totally agree with Raptor. The H&R's are a bit stiffer too IIRC. It made mine less fun overall.

 

[grrr]

If go for springs, are H&R or Eibach as firm as stock ones or more?
One mate wants his car a little lower, but doesn't want to make car uncomfortable, then stock.

 

[RussZS]

Does his car have Cup suspension? The H&R's I had came off a 'non Cup' 197 on which they were fine. However, on my R27, with Cup shocks/dampers the ride was WAY too firm, as Raptor says.

 

[grrr]

We have 197 in Russia only one available option of the car, suppose it's Luxe, not Cup, cant' conclude about shocks/dampers..

 

[RussZS]

Then I would say you would be okay - the Lux version doesn't have cup suspension, and when lowered is still a fairly comfortable ride. It's the Cup suspension which spoils the ride quality

 

[Raptor6767]

We have 197 in Russia only one available option of the car, suppose it's Luxe, not Cup, cant' conclude about shocks/dampers..

I agree with Russ - you should be fine with Eibach springs - I had them on my 197.

 

[Andy]

So on a 'non cup' 197 you're saying that both the H&R and Eibach springs are fine?

 

[Arun]

Eibach doesn't lower the car as much as H&R

I have Eibachs and I am very satisfied with the handling and the absorption of shocks, however if I have a passenger the car becomes very crashy

 

[grrr]

So the best choice would be KW v1 as the cheapest one? D

If Eibach doesn't lower why should we go for them? Are H&R stiffer? (How long stock shock absorbers will live with lower springs?)

 

[DutchR27]

Doesn't Eibach state that their springs lower the car by 20mm in front and 25mm in the back?