Help! Esp and abs light on with spanner

[Craig Hadden]

Hi all, thanks in advance for any help or info.

I am a new 197 owner, I've been after one for years and recently had the chance to get one at a steal of a price off a family member - easily the most fun car Ive driven! - Completely love it to bits! Its 10yo and has 51k on thw clock - been well looked after and serciced etc. Family member has owned it from new. But there are a couple of things needing attention and I'm looking for some advice...

So the problem is with the Spanner, ABS and ESP lights on as mentioned above - car drives perfectly but has the slightest shudder under heavier breaking and a bit of a hum at the same time. I also noticed with the windows down when I was creeping slowly up to a junction there was a slight 'tik tik tik' under gentle breaking... warped disc? OBDII hooked up to phone (using the Torque app) shows no faults logged but I understand not all faults register with all readers. I havent had the wheels off but think the front pads look ok although they havent been changed in a while. I've read a few things giving different solutions, one being low pads, another being more complex to do with the ABS sensor.

But what's the general consensus here from all you folk who know and have clio experience? I dont want to spend the better part of a couple of hundred quid on parts if it's unlikely to solve the issue - cash flow is tight and I'd rather spend the money puting it into a garage for proper diagnostics and fix if its more complex.

Also, if you're suggesting sending it off to the garage, any recommendations in the Highland/Inverness area?

Thanks folks.... all help very much appreciated... can't wait for a good summer of 197 touring!! ....stunning car...!!

 

[youngarthur]

Hi Craig, shudder under brakeing, more often due to warped disc/pad pick up on disc. ABS/ESP/Spanner light, rather than throw money at the problem, a code reader, should show the faults.Arnold Clark,( Renault Inverness) would test it for you, but cost around £60 just to test,OR hopefully, someone in Inverness/Aberdeen area has a code reader. I have a iCarsoft i907 reader, but I live near Thurso.I will ask on another forum, to see if anyone else can help.

 

[Craig Hadden]

Hi Craig, shudder under brakeing, more often due to warped disc/pad pick up on disc. ABS/ESP/Spanner light, rather than throw money at the problem, a code reader, should show the faults.Arnold Clark,( Renault Inverness) would test it for you, but cost around £60 just to test,OR hopefully, someone in Inverness/Aberdeen area has a code reader. I have a iCarsoft i907 reader, but I live near Thurso.I will ask on another forum, to see if anyone else can help.

Thanks for replying. Yeh, I wondered if the issues were unrelated - feel the on one hand new pads and discs up front won't do any harm but given budget constraints just now I'd rather make sure i put the money in the right place. I'm assuming from your reply and what Ive read elsewhere the 3 lights being on simultaneously isn't an indication of a specific fault and are just highlighting faults somewhere in each system? I think as I'm looking to keep the car for a long time it might be worth investing in a fault reader - the one you mention you have seems tk be available on ebay for £96. Would you reccommend that one or have suggestions for a different one? Helpful advice! Thank you!

 

[youngarthur]

The 3 lights, may not point to a specific problem, it could be temp.sensor even.I had a scan gauge, which sat on top of the dash, sold it because I spent a lot of time, looking at it while driving, not good, so, sold, and as stated the iCarsoft, i907,( For Renault), for me is a good solution, there are of course others, but this works fine, plus finding the fault, saves Renault diagnostic.

 

[Craig Hadden]

Cheers, I think a good reader is a good buy - I'm sure this won't be the only problem I have!! Thanks!

 

[youngarthur]

Stick with it Craig. It took me over a year, to iron out loads of problems, but now, well worth it.

 

[Dumdum]

The 3 lights, may not point to a specific problem, it could be temp.sensor even.I had a scan gauge, which sat on top of the dash, sold it because I spent a lot of time, looking at it while driving, not good, so, sold, and as stated the iCarsoft, i907,( For Renault), for me is a good solution, there are of course others, but this works fine, plus finding the fault, saves Renault diagnostic.

Put simply no it won’t be a temp sensor problem, it is an abs problem, there are no temp sensors for brake fluid or anything of the sort and an engine temp sensor will put the engine light on

If it has abs rings on the driveshafts I’d check these, if they are on the bearings less so, but abs rings will give a kickback from the pedal and also you’ll hear the abs pump ticking at very low speeds as it thinks a wheel is locked for a split second where the split in the ring is

I’ve also known a sensor get pushed away from a bearing ring by corrosion

It’s definately worth plugging the car in and finding out the exact fault before guessing, if your in Notts/Derbyshire area I’ll happily plug it in for nowt for you to my Delphi scanner

 

[Craig Hadden]

if your in Notts/Derbyshire area I’ll happily plug it in for nowt for you to my Delphi scanner[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the offer - I'm up near Inverness so a wee bit far for me! Thanks for the advice - scanner seems to be the way to go... cheers!