Fitting a 200 cup ARB to a 197

[Spanky-197]

Can this be done, of so what parts do you need?

Thanks

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[Dumdum]

I’d think so as it should be the same shape, drop links should be identical, you would need mounts although if yours are worn it may fit nice and tight with some copper grease as I think it’s only a mm bigger from memory (if it’s something daft bigger like 3mm you’ll need some rubber bushes to mount it to the subframe also, plus the new bar

 

[Yiannis197]

It's a direct swap. I've got it on mine (197)

 

[Dumdum]

It's a direct swap. I've got it on mine (197)

Surely the bushes are bar specific or do they come with the bar?

 

[Yiannis197]

They come with the bar mate. I'll see if I can find any old pics

 

[Dumdum]

They come with the bar mate. I'll see if I can find any old pics

That makes sense, with pug you could do the same but you had to then order the correct bushes to suit

 

[tomislavp4]

Why would you want a thicker ARB at the front? Surely it will increase understeer?
Just curious.

 

[Dumdum]

Why would you want a thicker ARB at the front? Surely it will increase understeer?
Just curious.

I’d definately update the rear axle first and then get the front as thick as possible, but yes it will increase tendency to oversteer and effect handling for the worse unless the rear is done also! I’d fit cup dampers and springs before uprating the front bar

 

[Spanky-197]

I'm either going cup dampeners, bilstein b14 or ktr coilovers.

Do the early 200 cup dampeners also fit the 197?

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[AmosMoses]

May as well go down the coilovers route rather than the cup dampers if you're spending the cash. As above leave the roll bar's till the suspension is done.

You'll want a larger rear than front roll arb for some lovely loose rear end handling.

 

[Spanky-197]

I currently have the ultra racing rear ARB?

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[Dumdum]

In that case the cup anti roll bar will be a decent match and help handling

 

[Big Ben]

If this is not an out and out track car and judging by your suspension choices it isnt(?) I personally don’t think the ARB is needed. Just saying

 

[Spanky-197]

It's just for road use

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[Dumdum]

It's just for road use

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In that case sell me your rear anti roll bar

 

[Doogle]

The rear 197 and 200 shocks use the same mounting. The front shocks are a wide mounting from 06 to 09 and they changed. You can use early 200 shocks, I have recently bought 2nd hand Cup shocks from an early 200 to fit my 197.

Shocks, springs and alignment is something I would do first. Even reducing toe has a good effect on turn in. Adjustable front topmounts will help with camber, a fine balance between handling and tramlining.

That said, it is your car and Id be interested in seeing if it can be improved. Everyone likes their car setup differently.