197/200 subframe locating pins

Steve.humberstone

Paid Member

• May 16, 2026

• #1

Hi Guys,

I recently had the front subframe off for a gearbox job, while it was out I also welded in some solid subframe mounts, since putting everything back together however my alignment is pretty whack, front right wheel seems to be further forward than the left, I have since read that there are locating holes on the subframe but I cannot find them, does anyone know where these are or have any hints/tricks to align the front subframe?

Cheers
Steve

 

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funMACHINE

Gold Member

• Monday at 4:51 AM

• #2

I think , it should align about these "pins" around the bolts ...

 

Steve.humberstone

Paid Member

• Monday at 12:46 PM

• #3

That's what I had thought, however reading into it apparently it's an issue when removing the subframe and it needs aligning with some holes on the chassis rails - which would explain why alignment is off, but cannot find anything. There are holes on the subframe but can't spot any holes for it to align with on the chassis

 

S24nrc

Paid Member

• Monday at 1:07 PM

• #4

The only thing you could do is loosen off the subframe bolts and try and move it around, but if those bushings posted above are located properly you're unlikely to be able to do anything with it imo. I've had the subframe off countless times doing Megane conversions and there's never been an issue with alignment.

 

VeiRoNv2

Paid Member

• Monday at 1:40 PM

• #5

Quite difficult to not align the rear bushes,they slot in easily where they are supposed to go,as far as I know that's the only two locating points.
I would be more inclined into looking at the front ones since you have welded solid mounts,they might not be aligned properly somehow.
Have you got some pictures of these front mounts?

 

Last edited: Monday at 1:45 PM

Steve.humberstone

Paid Member

• Monday at 4:50 PM

• #6

Sounds like what I had originally thought, might just drop it down and force it as far back as possible and see what impact this has. These are the solid mounts (I went for the kit from wheeler motorsport, everything fitted as expected)

 

VeiRoNv2

Paid Member

• Monday at 5:55 PM

• #7

Oh sorry I thought you meant the front solid mounts,so you just have the rear solid mounts, that's strange...

 

Steve.humberstone

Paid Member

• Monday at 6:43 PM

• #8

It’s both the front and rear - 6 in total, will see if I can shift it this evening

 

Steve.humberstone

Paid Member

• Yesterday at 12:04 PM

• #9

Bit of an update, I have supported the subframe, loosened all bolts that attach it to the chassis, removed the rear 2 bolts, dog bone removed, suspension all still connected and the rear right subframe bolt hole is indeed off centre (front of the car is to the left of the picture - this would make the front right wheel further forward than the front left)



I then used a pry bar and was able to shift the subframe a good few mm forward and back (it was not dropped so the tops of the mounts would still be in the holes), unfortunately I cannot upload the video of that here.

Spoke with Josh at Wheeler motorsport and he agrees with what everyone believed to be the case - the top of the mounts should engage in the holes and align the subframe. It's just not what i'm seeing!

I will continue my investigation....

 

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turkie172

Paid Member

• Yesterday at 1:07 PM

• #10

The heat of welding in the solid mounts might have distorted the subframe here is an FIA document for subframe and dimensions for checking crash damage. You might need to pull the subframe straight or realign the lower arms to compensate, with the info you can work out what's wrong but from the stuff I've seen the wheels when lowered sit forward rubbing where the bumper meets the wing.

What after market wheels for cup racer geo/suspension

 

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