Suspension Fitting Guide?

Discussion in 'Suspension, Brakes & Steering' started by RussZS, Aug 20, 2009.

  1. RussZS

    RussZS

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    I think there was a great guide on here for fitting springs to a 197 - does anyone still have it please?

    Also, on an R27, would you go H&R or Eibach?

    Thanks,

    Russ.
     

  2. GazFish

    GazFish

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    I don't have the original guide or any photo's but a quick overview:

    Front -
    Loosen the tophat middle bolt, don't remove the bolt
    Remove bolts around tophat/hole (not the tophat yet)
    Remove the two bolts in the bottom of the leg near the disk
    Pull out the leg carefully
    Compress Springs
    Remove tophat bolt, then out comes the spring to replace
    Replace tophat, components and bolt
    Replace leg as removed

    Rear -
    Put car on axle stands at both sides
    Remove bolt from bottom of the shocks (both sides)
    Axle swings down so springs are 'loose'.. might be stiff to pull out the seats or may be compressing..
    Add in new springs
    Use a trolley jack to higher the axle back into position
    Replace the bolts in the bottom of the shock and wa-la.

    As for springs.. H&R's have a better stance but are twice as expensive!
     
  3. RussZS

    RussZS

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    Thanks for the reply, much appreciated :smile:

    H&R's are £215 delivered, so not tooooo bad. Eibach's are about £170 I think.
     
  4. GazFish

    GazFish

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    Which are the ones on ebay for around £110? - 30mm I think.

    I'd like H&R's but for £215, it's a bit steep. Maybe I'll have a moment and get them ordered.
     
  5. RussZS

    RussZS

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    The £110 ones are Apex I think. Not heard great things about them, so I'd rather spend the extra personally.

    I know H&R is lower (which is what I have bought), but I read Eibach is 'better' quality somehow... any truth in that? Thing is the Eibach's won't look much different to standard...
     
  6. Adrian

    Adrian Platinum Legend Platinum Member

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    the cup racers use H&R springs

    Axles and suspension systems

    Front: Steering axis suspension, Bilstein shock absorbers, H&R springs
    Rear: Programmed deflection, torsion beam suspension, Bilstein shock absorbers, H&R springs

    see here for more details

    http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/champions ... fault.aspx
     
  7. RussZS

    RussZS

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    That's certainly good enough for me!!

    Thank you :smile:
     
  8. RussZS

    RussZS

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    Also, do you know if the Bilstein shocks are available too?
     
  9. carlo_sg

    carlo_sg

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    What make are the standard shocks?
     
  10. Adrian

    Adrian Platinum Legend Platinum Member

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    They will probably be available from R Sport in Wimbledon.
     
  11. maminja

    maminja

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    Neither, I fitted Eibach and it was to bumpy on everyday village road. After that I took KW V3 and now I can do what ever I like...

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    12082009174.jpg
     
  12. ben_r1

    ben_r1

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    Car:
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    Where'd u get your spacers from?

    What size are they?
     
  13. maminja

    maminja

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    SCC - 20mm and that is good for front, at rear you will need 25 or 30 mm if you are styler!

    http://www.spurverbreiterung.de/index.php?lan=de&ecu=

    You have catalog with prices...

    Down are pics on mine
    WITH SPACERS
    IMG_0147.jpg
    WITHOUT SPACERS
    IMG_0148.jpg

    REAR WITH SPACERS
    IMG_0140.jpg
    WITHOUT
    IMG_0142.jpg
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2009
  14. ben_r1

    ben_r1

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    Will 25mm all round work???
     
  15. maminja

    maminja

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    Same thread on 2 places, ....

    Yes it will work if you don't lower it to much on KW V3. And if you are driving slower on bumps.

    If you have just springs then DON'T WORRY just keep full throttle pressed:smile:
     
  16. RussZS

    RussZS

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    We seem to be struggling to locate the two bolts near the brake disc - can anyone help please? Give me a call maybe? 07515 880 871

    Cheers,
    Russ.
     

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