am I missing something? K tec want six grand to do it. As some may no have started collecting stuff. So engine, gearbox, intercooler etc drive shafts. So doing it yourself can't be more than 2000?
Where's the cost go doing the meg conversion
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I don't see it's anymore difficult than a straight swap. yes I no you have to do camber, clutch etc but mechanically it's a straight swap? it's just wiring and inter cooler
That's what I thought too, but with the engine already being out the car, it should be much easier and quicker to change the cambelt over.
@Siliconsteve nut case just from my little experience the Meg MK3 chassis is a lot more stable at 120/140 mph plus over the MK3 clio bud
6 grand is a piss take. A lot of the money, aside from the cost of the engine, goes on the smaller things like pipework, heat wrap and all the niggly little fixings etc. Soon adds up to a good few hundred quid. My R26r clutch and single mass flywheel was over £600, then there's the exhaust bits and pieces. Soon adds up!
Have just bought a engine turbo loom and gearbox which I no can't use for 300. inter cooler kit 300. cambelt clutch etc probably 500 . do I need to change big end bolts? planning to run 250 horses
Standard rods usually bend at around 300 lb/ft torque, but it wouldn't do any harm to stick a set of ARP rod bolts in there. If you're going to the bother of a remap then 270bhp and 270-280 lb/ft are good safe figures to keep it quick but civilised and driveable.
Stephenvenning
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I didn't even pay that for my conversion and mines built to very high spec with no expense spared. Ktec are known for stupid prices
It's the same old story though, there's doing it and doing it properly. Seen plenty of conversions done cheap and then go wrong as soon as they're running. People chucking a high mileage Meg engine in without even checking it over and just expecting it to give no issues kicking it's teeth in everyday. As been said, clutch and flywheel is £600+, new cambelt and aux bits inc water pump £220, spark plugs and fluids at a minimum so that's £1000 on top of your engine, exhaust £500. Plenty of gaskets/seals I'd want to do before putting the engine back in as well. My conversion probably owes me £5k with R26 box and loads of new parts like driveshafts etc.
Russ
Russ
Couldn't agree more . I've set a six month target to collect everything and check shells etc, replace head gasket etc. Only when have everything and I'm happy will I start it. Sometimes doing something yourself is better because you no it's been done
r&skxa
Gold Member
This is what I figured. I had a low mileage Clio 200 and a Megane 225 with 100,000 miles on it. That'll never do.
Engine was sent away and machined. Its now fully rebuilt with new forged parts. Anything that came off was replaced with new items. Turbo binned for a new 250 turbo, intercooler binned for an Airtec one, injectors binned for new bigger ones. New waterpump, belts seals, gaskets, pipes etc. Topped off with an R26 box with Gripper diff. I'm still short of a bloody exhaust system.
It's a this point when I have to question my sanity and wonder what the hell I'm doing. I tell people it cost less than it actually has so far as I'm ashamed to tell them the real cost lol. When it was started, in March, I knew I wanted a decent build, I wanted it done properly and once only but it spiraled out of control tbh.
Suppose at the end of the day, I've got a 0 mile engine and box that I can give actual hell to (that's what I'm going to keep telling myself anyway)
My 197 has now done 95000 miles anyway so the megane engine has lower miles. It's not my daily either so it's only three thousand miles a year hence why I'm not going over board. To be honest I'm not doing it to go balls out I'm doing it because the lack of low end torque is quite frustrating. I'm no boy racer but watching lesser cars overtake me until I hit five thousand revs is a little annoying.lol.
I will be happy with 250 horses and some low end grunt !
I will be happy with 250 horses and some low end grunt !
I'd be exactly the same. Why would i 'swap' my 36k Clio lump for a 90k Meg lump and possibly risk reliability in the process ?
If it were me id be buying a documented, low-mileage lump with a good service history as a start-point. Even if that meant it took me longer to do / be able to afford the conversion in full. I wouldn't compromise a really good build for the sake of a few months 'savings' if thats what waiting slightly longer meant. Maybe partly because mine is solely a road car. That i rely on for work...
And i know others @Gordini have the same mentality when they've talked about a possible conversion.
Whilst i can't vouch for the engines, LSD's, Gearbox's etc that K-Tec uses, its easy to see how a huge variance in prices of the Meg conversion can occur when there are so many options as to the initial engine / gearbox spec, the whole gearbox / LSD issue / engine management, other hard-parts, go-faster bits, ''look-good' / bling additions etc etc
Not to mention some people hand the whole thing over to someone else to tackle. Some buy their own hardware and let a specialist do the dirty-work. And some do the whole mechanical bit - only really paying someone else to do the mapping.
There are many ways to skin a cat i think is the ultimate answer. And with that comes a huge range of price differences !
Pav
Moderator
Interesting read..all above mentioned is very much true..not sure I wanna take my meg engine apart though..once you start there's no end to it and that's how you end up with a huge bill..
Nevertheless,I do get it..has to be done..have most of my parts gathered now but still there's a grand worth of parts to be acquired at least..
Its never cheap let's put it this way:excited:
Nevertheless,I do get it..has to be done..have most of my parts gathered now but still there's a grand worth of parts to be acquired at least..
Its never cheap let's put it this way:excited:
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