Suspension variations

[RalphyBMW]

So I am considering fitting 200 Cup suspension to my 197, only idly considering I should add. My understanding of the various chassis variations is as follows, and I wanted to see if I have missed anything;

Springs (in order of firmness)
200 FF
197 FF
197 Cup
200 Cup

Dampers (in order of firmness)
200 FF
197 FF
197 Cup
200 Cup

Steering
200FF / 197 FF / 197 Cup - all same
200 Cup

Top mounts - all same

Bushes - all same

ARB - all same

Geometry settings - all same

Anyone know any different, is the above correct?

Thanks for your time!

 

[pritchardR27]

would it be worth all the money and effort for slightly stiffer suspension? or is it alot better?

 

[RalphyBMW]

Mine has done 85k, and while it drives well, new suspension would possibly freshen it up. Most interested in the rack tbh - compared to the cost of new track rods and track rod ends, a new rack (including rods and ends) is quite cheap.

 

[pritchardR27]

auhh right should feal alot tighter with new stuff

 

[ken182]

I'm getting new tie rods and track rod ends fitted as soon as the parts Arrive. There is a bit of play at 3 and 9 o clock on the front wheels. £80 for the rack ends and £36for the track rod ends.

The 197 cup has slightly different toe in settings compared to the FF

 

[MikeLYR27]

Coilovers?

 

[pritchardR27]

lol how urs mate? any changes yet?

 

[ken182]

here are the toe settings for the cup/non cup. the camber and castor are the same for both but the cup has more toe out

Symbols used by RENAULT: - -: toe-out, - +: toe-in.

Non cup pack
Value (for two wheels)
-0 ̊10’ ± 8’
Position of vehicle
Vehicle in running order

Cup pack;

Value (for two wheels)
-0 ̊12’ ± 12’
Position of vehicle
Vehicle in running order

 

[RalphyBMW]

Ken - did you go for 197 or 200 cup dampers?

I was working off track rods and track rod ends being around £40 each, so £160, whereas a new Cup rack is around £320.

 

[ken182]

197 cup shocks mate. £198 including postage from genuineparts4u.co.uk. spot on service

i have bought my tie rod ends from them too (part 7701475837) - £80 the pair delivered

i got the track rod ends from unipart though. they were £35 for the pair so less than half the renault price. theyre the same as what is fitted to the regular megene's etc.

i was getting mixed info about the availability of pattern tie rod ends so decided to just get genuine renault/TRW ones to be safe. the genuine ones come with replacement boots and clips etc too so not that much dearer than the unipart ones i was quoted.

 

[MikeLYR27]

lol how urs mate? any changes yet?

You on about mine fella?

Just in the process of ordering a full supersprint exhaust, inlets and a remap, just waiting on a final price for shrick cams, so hopefully mid jan it will be al done. But dont worry ill keep the site posted