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so there are 3 different headlights? standard - chrome trim xenons - black trim optic - black trim seen ones with the black trim and they do look nicer, and more so when i want a black one. standard seats sit lower? sounds good to me! :)

remember sitting in a 197 when they first came out at the festival of speed and can remember thinking the seats (standard ones) were really supportive and comfy I would like the recaros but dont want a cup (as i want a/c) so be lucky to get them. climate control would be nice as well...

I keep looking on Autotrader to see if theres any good 197s near me. Just none near me for the right price. Need a test drive! Are the recaros a must have? comfy for long distance?

its always a lower figure at the wheels isnt it? so what bhp u running at flywheel or other place they measure it?

210 ps then? lol So a good panel filter, then chip. Superchips advertise a 12bhp increase. Be nice to get over 200bhp.

Bognor Regis mate. I want a fun car to drive. But want something that is quick as well. How much is the 197 tunable? chip and filter would get it to 210bhp? Would you feel much difference?

My lupo reg ends in ZTV. 0-62 time for clio is 6.9. Think mazda is lows 6s. Are 182s quicker in a straight line? I know you have to rev the 197 to get the true performance, but does it still pull well at say 3000rpm? So if i get an early 2008 it should have the revised gear box? Im...

really? his is the 230 one. Feels quite quick, but it needs reving even more than the 197 lol

I will need another test drive before i decide then. When were the gear ratios revised, read in mags around 2007? how you know if the car has new ones? Also did all 197s have brembo brake calipers? My mate has just got a rx-8, so want something that doesnt get easily beaten by that :)...

Hi, im quite new on here. I've got a Lupo Gti which i'm going to sell in a month or so. Had it 5 years so fancy a change. I'm leaning towards getting a 197. Love the look of them but when i test drove one a year ago it didnt seem a huge step up from the GTi in terms of speed. Perhaps i wasnt...