Thanks for that info. Thats helpful. I can get a Sealey one at a really great price through Cromwell tools at work too; which is good if the machine is upto it. And it sounds like it is ! I'll get one sorted tomorrow and then get some quality backers, waffle heads etc on the go too. ****Just for reference - they seem to do a few. Which Sealey machine in particular are you talking about ? Are you a detailer by trade Shane ? Or does your company do detailing, or ??