Rusty front sub frame!!!

Discussion in 'Clio 197 Area' started by Roninbb, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. Roninbb

    Roninbb Paid Member

    37
    Clio 197 ff
    Just got under the Clio for the first time since buying it, only to discover the front subframe is falling to bits!
     

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  2. Roninbb

    Roninbb Paid Member

    37
    Clio 197 ff
    Another bit
     

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  3. Roninbb

    Roninbb Paid Member

    37
    Clio 197 ff
    Aaannnd another
     

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  4. Dmonk197

    Dmonk197 Paid Member

    860
    Borehamwood
    197 R27
    im no metal expert but that looks like paint and none of the metal looks to be breaking or has holes. some sandpaper and fresh paint should put that right.
     
  5. Roninbb

    Roninbb Paid Member

    37
    Clio 197 ff
    Nope, has huge chunks missing out of it lol
     
  6. Antti O

    Antti O Paid Member

    Mikkeli, Finland
    Clio 197 Ultra red 2007
    It is radiator support, not sub frame. You can remove it and get it sandblasted.
    Then some paint.

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  7. vnahalv

    vnahalv Paid Member

    12
    Clio RS 197
    Mine is beyond repair so looking for a used one that I can refurb! Called Renault and a replacement is around £250
     
  8. Roninbb

    Roninbb Paid Member

    37
    Clio 197 ff
    Luckily I spoke to the place I got it from today, sent some pictures. They've agreed to sort it out as I've knkynhad it 4 weeks!
     
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  9. RossWoods93

    RossWoods93 Platinum Member

    648
    Bury St Edmunds
    LY Clio RS 200
    Jesus, it’s a good job you took a look under there when you did! Good work on getting them to sort it, hopefully it’ll be rust free again soon!
     
  10. Antti O

    Antti O Paid Member

    Mikkeli, Finland
    Clio 197 Ultra red 2007
    Radiator support is easy to change diy. Mine was also rusty, but little bit of welding and sandblasting..
    If you buy new or second hand, paint or protect it. I think protection from factory was poor.
     
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  11. Jack Maxwell

    Jack Maxwell Gold Member

    47
    Clio 200 Silverstone
    How long did it take you to remove? what was required?
    Mine is looking crappy too and could do with a refurb
     
  12. Antti O

    Antti O Paid Member

    Mikkeli, Finland
    Clio 197 Ultra red 2007
    Hello

    I try to remember how it was.

    1. Lift car up , put jack stands, so car is in nice balance and you have enough room to work under car.
    2. Remove undertray
    3. Remove inner wings
    4. Remove front bumper (see how-to section).
    5. Support radiator that it would not drop down when you remove radiator support.
    6. Remove bolts from front of the support and side.

    If i remember correctly now you can remove this radiator support.

    Here is picture how i supported my radiator before i drop the radiator support bar

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    And here is picture, see bolts

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  13. Jack Maxwell

    Jack Maxwell Gold Member

    47
    Clio 200 Silverstone
    Cheers for the great reply. Was under the car yesterday and noticed it was in a state so its a job on the list too do. Just cleaned it up and waxoyl for now
     
  14. -Eddie-

    -Eddie- Missing In Action Paid Member

    Belfast
    200 Cup
    This could be worthwhile contacting your local dealer about under the 12 year Anti Perforation warranty. It wouldn’t be the first time a Clio 3 front subframe has been replaced under the Anti Perforation warranty - doesn’t matter if it’s Renaultsport or not it happens on them!
     
  15. ZaShark

    ZaShark Paid Member

    33
    197
    Hi

    Think mine is in the same boat on a quick look, so what did you go for in the end if you got it sorted? i swear i read some where its is the same on any mk3 clio? is there any truth in this if any body knows that can confirm?

    Wow nice write up and info! thanks worse case i can eventually get on to something like this, if only you were closer id borrow you mine to help out on :smile: nice work bud :thumb:
     
  16. Antti O

    Antti O Paid Member

    Mikkeli, Finland
    Clio 197 Ultra red 2007
    @zashark
    See my post from 19 march (top of this thread).
    You can remove that radiator support bar, and get it sandblasted and then paint it.
    It is not subframe, and this rusty part job is keep radiator in place.

    Btw. New part from renault is approx 200£, but remember do rust protection carefully before installing.
     
  17. turkie172

    turkie172 Paid Member

    Yes that's true but a straight flat plate can do that job the big problem I have is that it's part of the crumple zone in an accident and for it to rust and weaken the way it does and at that speed my car had a new one 3 years ago and the rust is there already at it's behind plastic bumper covers Renault should be pulled and forced to do something at the minimum have a better painted part to replace it with.
     
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  18. DS197

    DS197 POTM Winner - June 2017 Paid Member

    Clio 197
    Do you think it's worth powder coating or painting a replacement before fitting it?
     
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  19. Andyyox

    Andyyox Paid Member

    10
    197
    Mines pretty bad....

    Seems common . I'd recommend decent paint or powder and then waxoil or similar on your replacement !
     

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  20. turkie172

    turkie172 Paid Member

    Well £200 and starts to rust inside 3 years, steering wheels that melt clearly not fit for purpose but as owners we get tired of fighting with Renault so it comes in like an undercoat finish but must be unpainted inside hence the rust so yea some kind of paint on the outside and wax oil inside the layers.
     

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