GW 197 ex Michelin Road Cup Racer -> Track car/Sprints

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  1. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    So Sunday I spent a bit of time preparing the Clio for this Friday!

    First off my friend and I went to a meet in the cars, his is an MX-5 turbo with around 220 bhp.

    After comparing the two I was quite suprised they are very similar in performance, if anything the Clio was a little faster! So the work and weight loss has paid off a little.. Hard to say as I haven't weighed it but I estimate somewhere under 1200kg with 2 passangers!

    As for setup:

    I redone the geo, so here is the settings I am trying:

    ***********old:

    Front

    -2.7 Camber
    +1.5mm toe out per wheel

    Rear

    -1.8 Camber
    +4 mm toe out per wheel

    ************new:


    Front

    -2.7 Camber
    +1.5mm toe out per wheel

    Rear

    -2.3 Camber
    +2.6mm toe out per wheel

    clio av8 1.jpg mx5 av8.jpg
     
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  2. BenAG200

    BenAG200 Paid Member

    Looks so good mate. Take the car down to your local weigh bridge if you want an actual weight, I reckon it's a lot lighter than you think.
     
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  3. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    Yea guesstimated from the mx5 kerb weight +200 kg / its bhp multiplied by my bhp as they were quite matched! Rough as tits way to do it but the weight it gave was 1173 which seems realistic tbh! So would be about 1050 without fuel and passengers haha. Yea I need to pop down and check it out! I think its definitely the Clio is much lighter than I thought, MX-5 is a quick enough wee car!
     
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  4. ///M

    ///M Gold Member

    RB R27#312 & an ///M
    Always good to hear the NA guys giving it to the FI guys! :thumb:
     
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  5. DrewHughes

    DrewHughes Paid Member

    9
    E46 M3
    Love this car!

    Looks great, cant wait to get mine all up and running.
     
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  6. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    SO buzzing now! Cant wait to go home and give it a check over and dust it off! I've only had time to clean the wheels since finishing it on sunday
     
  7. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    Just an update from the last track day, car went really well. Pretty good for it's first time out, just a couple of small handling issues to sort.

    Clutch died at 3.00, so it went home on a recovery truck lol.

    While it's apart I'm addressing issues, small oil leak from missing bolt in side plate and cracked exhaust manifold at the head.

    I am also fitting some nice engine mounts.

    To address handling I am fitting some heavier rear springs, to 130n/mm on rear & I am also collecting the racer geo kit, ee brackets and bump steer I have now.

    Clio on track:
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    Clutch fail:
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    Clio not happy:
    IMG_7803.JPG

    New engine mounts:
    IMG_7872.JPG



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  8. Sean197

    Sean197 Boost Moderator

    Fife, Scotland
    Albi 197T
    Love this build, good to see it done properly! Shame about the clutch but good you had fun while it lasted.
     
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  9. BenAG200

    BenAG200 Paid Member

    Bugger about the clutch and manifold mate, looks like you're seizing the opportunity to make it better though. Such a great build, love checking this thread out, shots on track look fantastic too.
     
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  10. Christopher

    Christopher Paid Member

    720
    Manchester
    200 Clubsport
    So awesome. Is it a genuine X85 Cup car then?
     
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  11. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    Cheers mate, yea only small issues though. It's probably an old injury if I'm honest, just seen that there was signs of a small blow! It's coming on okay, gone more serious than I intended to I guess just the norm haha.
     
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  12. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    It's a cup racer not a cup racer :wink:.. Its the road series car, so a very soft version of a proper cup racer! Now it's getting more and more like one everyday!
     
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  13. Christopher

    Christopher Paid Member

    720
    Manchester
    200 Clubsport
    Ah yeah, converted road series.
     
  14. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    Cup racer kit is in progress!

    1) Adds 2.5 degrees to the camber, so will see over 5 degrees max (with camber bushes) and minimum around 2.5-3 with bushes adjusted the opposite way.

    2) Increases track width with no spacers

    3) Roll centre corrected

    4) Bump steer corrected with rack shims and TRE adaptor

    5) Shafts should be ready in the next few weeks. Need it all ready to go for blyton

    So a busy and expensive Clio month.. Should transform the feel of the car .

    Follow the racer/R3 bits thread for detailed info :smile:

    #shouldhaveboughtacupracer


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  15. Christopher

    Christopher Paid Member

    720
    Manchester
    200 Clubsport
    Proper job. Love this thead.
     
  16. krash67

    krash67 Paid Member

    424
    Lincolnshire, UK
    BMW 140i & fecking around with a 200
    Let us know when your there, live locally.
     
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  17. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    Think it's the 7th. Clio weekender


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  18. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    Start of the kit [​IMG]


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  19. A1axx

    A1axx

    261
    Wiltshire
    Clio 197 Race Car
    So I wanted to raise up the shifter.

    I found my self swinging a hand off too far to get gears. The CAE is way outta my budget for something when it's mostly aesthetics you are paying for (beautifully cnc machined goodness)

    So..

    Make a small hole then a 32mm one beside it, this is to allow you to slide the ends through with the cable already through as below..

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    Old pic when I bought it:
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    Raised up:

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  20. trackspec197

    trackspec197 Paid Member

    336
    Worcester
    Clio 197 BMW 320 M Sport
    How much higher is it mate?
     

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