Gearbox dogbone mount - has the part changed?

[tchalikias]

My 200's dogbone mount is on its way out and I can feel it while driving. I'm going to replace it on the next service.

I've found three part numbers: 8200777542, 8200042454, 8200509784. Apparently, these all fit the 197/200.

However, the design seems to have changed; the OEM mount is covered in rubber, like so:

While an eBay seller of genuine RS parts has this listed as a newer revision:

which is a monocoque aluminum design.

Which should I go for?

 

[CallorFold]

Have you considered the Powerflex insert? https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-series/product-details/Lower+Engine+Mount+Insert/11148.html

 

[tchalikias]

I have, but I'd like to replace the mount first, also, how are the vibrations with the inserts? Furthermore, is the all aluminum part the correct one for the 200?

 

[montana]

I bought this one as an alternative to OE (Febi) , just seen its down to £11!! Assuming due to amazon prime day

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CD3VXA8/?tag=clio197-21

 

[Legend@wheels]

11 wow nice price ,interesting how the quality is .

 

[CallorFold]

I have, but I'd like to replace the mount first, also, how are the vibrations with the inserts? Furthermore, is the all aluminum part the correct one for the 200?

There's no reason to replace the whole mount if you're getting Powerflex insert. The Powerflex insert replaces the worn/damaged rubber surrounding the metal triangle shaped bit.

As for vibration, I can't really comment accurately as I already had the upper torque mount installed before fitting the lower. It seemed very minimal though.

 

[turkie172]

the Rofag one is the genuine one (new design) remember a lot of eBay listings are wrong for example listing 4 stud wheels as ( fits Clio 197) and sellers do all kinds of tricks like "genuine oem replacement" or "genuine replacement part". Also if there are no Renault stamps on it or Renault part numbers on it then its not genuine, it should be about 110mm between centres, about 40mm thick at the round end and 50mm thick at the triangle end. If you don't fix the engine mount end of things (gearbox, side mount, top mount and lower mount) the engine will move more and it will cost you the flexi joints on the manifold which is a lot more hassle and cost to fix and then you still have to replace the mounts or your new manifold will quickly die. When your done push on the engine with your hand to check the difference in movement I would do the top mount as well at least because they work as a pair (top and lower mount).

 

[tchalikias]

Do you have the part numbers for the top and lower engine mount? (left by the belt area and the one under the battery)

 

[fano45]

8200131305
http://www.renaultpartsdirect.co.uk/product/renault-clio-197-engine-mount/

8200298484
http://www.renaultpartsdirect.co.uk/product/renault-clio-197-engine-mount-stabiliser-bar/

8200352861
http://www.renaultpartsdirect.co.uk/product/renault-clio-197-gearbox-mount-ns/

8200777542
http://www.renaultpartsdirect.co.uk/product/renault-clio-197-engine-mount-lower/

82001313058200352861

 

[tchalikias]

Thank you fano!!

 

[CallorFold]

Do you have the part numbers for the top and lower engine mount? (left by the belt area and the one under the battery)

I think you're getting mixed up with the mounts.

Very top of the engine bay is the "Torque Arm/Upper engine mount" - http://www.k-tecracing.com/images/products/66-822fittedtoarmweb_f.jpg

Just below that (in Powerflex terms) is the "upper engine mount/insert" http://www.candrenterprises.co.uk/assets/shop/Vibratechnics/REN405M-ALT1.jpg

Bottom of the engine is the "Lower Engine mount/dog bone" - https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3892/14506708662_ea19e00405_o.jpg

Below the battery tray is the gearbox mount - http://thumbsnap.com/s/nlFq5iEa.jpg

 

[tchalikias]

Thanks for the clarification. Yeah by lower gearbox mount I meant the dogbone.