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  1. Wolf197

    Wolf197 Paid Member

    20
    Clio 197
    Hello everyone,

    It's been a while.....

    1988 Renault 5 GT Turbo Blue
    1990 Renault 5 GT Turbo White
    1992 Renault Clio 1.8 16V

    I am back to build a 2006 Clio 197 into a track car

    Any advice and help is welcome
     
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  2. Pav

    Pav Moderator

    Manchester
    albi blue 197 with boost
    welcome...plenty of info on here..enjoy your stay...:french:
     
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  3. nutnutwelshman

    nutnutwelshman Spa-tacus Area Rep

    2
    Welcome back to the family enjoy
     
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  4. Beany

    Beany Platinum Member

    Doncaster
    RB 200 cup
    Welcome back to French life :french:
     
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  5. Johnny 99

    Johnny 99 Platinum Member

    Inverness
    Clio Renaultsport 200
  6. Big Ben

    Big Ben Winner - POTM February 2018 Paid Member

    Herts
    197
    Welcome aboard. Hope you have deep pockets!!
     
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  7. sevenfourate

    sevenfourate Devotee of OCD Paid Member

    Lowestoft, England.
    Racing Blue RS-200
    With the previously-owned list - thats a given. Or perhaps a poor memory :french:


    Welcome to the fold and good luck with the track car.......
     
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  8. Jimmy

    Jimmy Good cop Administrator

    Welcome to the forum! And welcome back to Renault ownership - a sucker for punishment I see :smile:

    Enjoy the new car!
     
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  9. Wolf197

    Wolf197 Paid Member

    20
    Clio 197
    I try to forget the amount of driveshafts I went through on the lowered 5 Turbos.
    And the Clutch changes!!

    With the 197 you get a lot of car for 3K

    What problems should i expect??
     
  10. nutnutwelshman

    nutnutwelshman Spa-tacus Area Rep

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    Read the buyers GUIDE
     
  11. sevenfourate

    sevenfourate Devotee of OCD Paid Member

    Lowestoft, England.
    Racing Blue RS-200
    My boss (Ex R5 GT owner) recalls to me stories of 12+ wheel bearings. Think he wore the press out at work......

    Common / costly 197 and 200 issues can include:

    Leaking flexis / cracked manifold: (Renault item expensive, others may require Remap. Labour to swap 'expensive).
    Lower ball joints: Pretty common. Bit of a pig to change.
    Sticking brakes: the front and rears really require some periodic love and lubing. Say no more.....
    General hesitation / kangarooing / poor cold running: Securing MAP sensor can help. Remap will do wonders for this and general fuelling.
    Crunchy g/box: Synchro's are known to fail somewhat randomly (Age no factor perhaps......). Rebuild the only solution.
    Cambelt: Along with de-phaser, aux belt, water pump etc is a 6 year / 72k affair. Approx £600 all-in if needs doing.

    Good news is....if you can find an enthusiast owned 197 - being a few years older - many of these issues may have been 'sorted'.

    Good luck.
     
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  12. Wolf197

    Wolf197 Paid Member

    20
    Clio 197
    A gutting Christmas message
     
  13. Jimmy

    Jimmy Good cop Administrator

    It's honestly not as bad as you first think. Many, many cars have never had either manifold/gearbox problems, this is purely pot luck and really nothing to put you off owning the car. Just bear it in mind and take steps to ensure it's covered off (a sum of money set aside towards it).

    The other things, well they can be put down to expected maintenance and preventative care. Ball joints can be done cheaper at specialists and if you buy the right car, the cambelt may have already been done recently.

    These cars aren't really the nightmares that the wider web will have you believe :smile: plenty of people on here who love their motors can attest to that!
     
  14. BLJ

    BLJ Paid Member

    45
    the Netherlands
    Clio RS 197 R27 F1 #2400 Nimbus
    Welcome. To me the 197 feels like a cracking base for a track car. Have fun with it!
     
  15. Wolf197

    Wolf197 Paid Member

    20
    Clio 197
    Any
    Thanks for the advice Jimmy, much appreciated.
    The car I am collecting in Jan has a good warranty so I will hopefully get everything checked out particularly the gearbox.
    The box does feel fine on test drive changing down from 5th to 3rd ETC.

    Any advice for a decent independent Renault specialist in Derbyshire/ Notts/ South Yorkshire?
     
  16. Jimmy

    Jimmy Good cop Administrator

    Happy to help.

    A warranty is a great thing to get, and absolutely worth getting those things on the list checked out before you take the plunge. The box will always be a bit reluctant from cold, but should change very smoothly once it's warmed up.

    You're in a sweet spot for RS specialists! There is either Bolsover Car Care (who I have used a couple of times), or Midlands Renault Specialists (Mark Black runs this and used to work at BCC when I went there). Both are very good garages to use. I believe both are on Facebook, but I don't use it so don't quote me on that :smile:
     
  17. sevenfourate

    sevenfourate Devotee of OCD Paid Member

    Lowestoft, England.
    Racing Blue RS-200
    Sorry. I can pad it out and tell you what you want to hear if you like ? :tonguewink:

    But as an owner of nearly 2 years and a frequent follower of various forums, social media and owners blog etc - the facts are out there of how finicky and costly these cars are to own for many. Some of that might be due to the fact most of us are enthusiasts who go above and beyond in terms of renewing parts, servicing etc of course. But read people's progress threads in here too. They will tell the story.

    Below are typical of points to watch out for as explained and found in almost all decent 197 / 200 Buyers guides where they don't just tell you about the eager engine, fantastic handling etc;

    http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...-a-second-hand-renault-clio-197200-2009-2012/

    http://www.clio197.net/threads/clio-197-buyers-guide.19788/

    http://www.evo.co.uk/renault/clio/14050/renaultsport-clio-197200-checkpoints

    etc etc etc

    And with all respect; hitting the track with an 11 year old fairly highly strung car is never likely to be a cheap exercise.


    GOOD LUCK if you take the plunge:sunglasses:
     
  18. Chris

    Chris Bad cop Administrator

    Welcome along :smile:
     
  19. Wolf197

    Wolf197 Paid Member

    20
    Clio 197
    Well, I collect the car on Saturday.
    Std 197 -2007 in Ultra Red- 70,000 miles FSH

    The journey begins..
     
  20. Pav

    Pav Moderator

    Manchester
    albi blue 197 with boost
    happy days..looking forward to your pics :thumb:
     

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